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Phenyl Manufacturing Problems & Solutions
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Q. Sir please send me black phenyl formulation.
Alpesh surani- india gujrat
November 25, 2011
Q. Dear Sir, I am planning to start business. Can anyone help me to advise what all chemicals are to be used and in which ratio as well as the procedure to make the concentrate.
regards,
- New Delhi, India
December 2, 2011
A. Hi, Alpesh, hi, Rohit.
Those questions were already answered. If there was something you did not understand please try to express your ongoing questions in terms of what has already been said :-)
Starting over can make the page long & boring, and is disrespectful to the helpful readers who already answered :-(
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. Is there any possibility that we can make it without using cutting oil?
bharat b- bhuj, Gujarat and India
December 21, 2011
RFQ: Kindly inform if you have testing facilities for checking quality of White phenyl , Liquid Soap, Toilet / Marble cleaners. In case you don't have arrangements can you please suggest someone who has.
Thanks & best regards
- Kolkata, India.
December 21, 2011
Ed. note: Sorry, this RFQ is old & outdated, so contact info is no longer available. However, if you feel that something technical should be said in reply, please post it; no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?)
Q. I would like to make home made cleaning products, such as liquid soaps and liquid detergents. Please give me some ingredients.
Azhakesanpillai- INDIA
February 5, 2012
Q. I want to learn all cleaning items so please inform me how to learn to make this item. Please tell and teach me.
Thanking you sir.
liquid soap and all cleaning items - Hyderabad, Andhrapradesh, India
March 24, 2012
Readers --
A public forum requires that we give in order to receive :-)
You all know something about this subject or you wouldn't be viewing this page. Please contribute something by framing your ongoing questions in terms of anything at all that you know, like: "I've tried xx liters of creosote oil with yy liters of pine oil and zz liters of caustic, but this is what happens: ... ".
Thanks and Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. I am a manufacturer and I am currently using market made concentrate and some yellow oil problem on top.
One more problem: how to thicken it. If I use less water in concentrate then it doesn't fall economical.
How to get rid of these problems.
- Jaipur, India
April 9, 2012
Q. White pigment used as emulsifier for disinfectant products. Their pH value is 9-11. Can you give name of the product? Or can we use latex?
- AlKkhobar, Saudi Arabia
May 31, 2012
Q. Dear sir,
For phenyl manufacturing are any government authorizations or licenses required?
If yes, then what is formality to do that?
- Ahmedabad, India
Q. For white phenyl manufacturing any government authorizations or licenses required?
If yes, then what is formality to do that?
- Ara, Bihar, India
December 1, 2017
Q. I want to get the formula of making transparent white phenyl concentrate, I'm already making thick pine oil based white phenyl concentrate. I also want to know if there are any other oils which can be used as a substitute of pine oil. Please help me out, I'm purchasing transparent concentrate at high cost.
Shashank [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]- Ambala Haryana, India
November 24, 2012
Q. Sir,
We are a manufacturer of liquid hand soaps, but my main problem is when we clean our hands with our soaps, after washing with water, some foam remains on hands. Please tell us what chemical name removes the foam from hands after cleaning.
- Noida U.P
Q. Hello everyone,
I am manufacturing it but there is a ring formation (separation) in the neck of the measuring cylinder. Please suggest the way to remove the ring.
I am diluting pine oil in the ratio of 1:10 (1 part pine oil concentrate and 10 parts water).
- Meerut, U.P., India
January 7, 2013
Q. What is cutting oil?
Suresh Kolandai- Salem, Tamilnadu, India
Q. Respected listener: how to make white phenyl...what is the function of cutting oil in it? Kindly must reply.
Danish- Pakistan
January 8, 2013
Q. Dear sir,
I want to make white phenyl; I'm using pine oil & amp; tween 80,
and make concentrate and dilute with 30 parts of water ... but final products is very diluted. Please help me how to make darker white phenyl.
Please help me what is real chemical combination of white phenyl.
- Gorakhpur, U.P., India
January 19, 2013
A. A GOOD QUALITY WHITE phenyl SHALL POSSESS THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS
- ITS COLOR NEEDS TO BE NATURAL SNOW LIKE WHITE AND AESTHETICALLY EXCELLENT.
- IT SHOUD BE VISCOUS ENOUGH TO DIUTE IN MORE PARTS OF WATER.
- IT MUST SPREAD PLEASANT SMELL WHEN DILUTED WITH WATER.
- IT MUST POSESS ANTI-BACTERIAL PROPERTIES
- IT MUST EASILY EMULSIFY GREASE, GRIME, DIRT AND ACCUMULATION FROM SUBSTRATE.
- IT MUST NOT DEVELOP OIL-WATER SEPARATION LAYER
- IT MUST NOT TURN GREY OR YELLOW AFTER SOME MONTHS
- IT MUST REMAIN STABLE IN EVERY WAY UP TO MORE THAN 30 MONTHS
- IT MUST SHOW (RWC) COEFFICIENT TO DESIRED LEVEL IN LABORATORY
- IT MUST KILL SALMONILATYPHIE AND STAPHACOCALAURUS
- Srinagar Jammu & Kashmir
Q. When I mixed TRO (1 part) and pine(3 parts) it gets separated after 5 hours -- why, although both are oils?
Neeta Gawade- India
February 14, 2013
Q. Which is better to use with pine oil for concentrated phenyl solution
TRO or Cutting Oil?
- Rajasthan, India
Q. Dear SIR,
I want to know the formula of phenyl concentrate which is made from PINE OIL,T.R.O AND CUTTING OIL.
- Navsari,Gujarat, India
Q. I am preparing White phenyl in village area through the help of SHGs members. After mixing materials, water and white chemicals show in clearly two different layers. So my questions are --
1. Should I insure firstly water pH is what ?
2. In my chemicals has sunray / air entered ?
3. For more white and darkness of phenyl what should I do ?
4.Why water and white chemicals are in two different layers ?
- Jamshedpur, Jharkhand, India
June 19, 2013
Q. I am a manufacturer and I am currently using market made concentrate. One problem: how to thicken it? If I use less water in concentrate then also it is not getting thicker.
How to get rid of these problems?
- Pune, Maharashtra, India
Turkey red oil -- phenyl grade manufacturing method
Q. Dear sir,
We want to make turkey red oil-phenyl grade. Kindly guide me with detailed procedure along with ingredient list. Also suggest me how to make phenyl using this Turkey red oil -- phenyl grade?
I would be highly obliged if you help me in this matter.
- Panoli, Gujarat, India
October 17, 2013
Q. Respected sir,
We have prepared a good concentrate of white phenyl, but it appears very thin. How it should be thickened. There is also a price limit. kindly suggest your valuable advise.
Thanks and regards,
- Kolhapur, Maharashtra, India
November 10, 2013
Q. What are the documents required to start manufacturing and selling phenyl. Please help.
Dev Mishra- Roorkee, Uttrakhand, India
November 27, 2013
Q. Can anybody tell me or phenyl manufacturing business is there any license required from gov.?
My other question is does Manufacturer directly sell phenyl to retailer or is there any requirement of local distributor?
- Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
A. Hello,
Your practical problems are all quite common. Many readers do not have basic knowledge of Emulsion Technology and stability of its emulsion. But unfortunately I feel this is not the correct platform to pass-on true answers.
General problems are making good phenyl conc. preparation by using T.R.O. along with developing body/depth of brightness using Cutting Oil. First of all, readily available cutting oil contains 10-12% Emulsifier (made through Sodium Petroleum Sulphonate of different mol. wt. material with small quantity of Oleic Acid with Ethoxylated-alkyl Phenol). While diluting conc. phenyl to 15-30 ratio, which gets imbalance the total surfactants ratio of final diluted emulsion is key factors for separation. While selecting T.R.O., first we have to gauge/assess the app. H.L.B.value of product by simply diluting in Water. If turns more than 12 H.L.B value, emulsion will disappear during storage of final emulsion.The pH of product also reflects on the emulsion stability.
The correct practical method by using 60:40 ratio of Castor Oil : Rosin-Soap, which creates body to phenyl compound and as well as for Emulsion. This soap 1 : 2 (Pine Oil). Emulsion Brightness and viscosity can be improved by adding Cutting Oil Emulsifier and not ready cutting oil (Conc. Approx. 40% diluted in aromatic hydrocarbon solvent to use product to prepare cutting oil )
Rohidas KamatTechnical Service - Bangalore, Karnataka, India
A. Thanks Rohidas! You are probably right that it may be unrealistic for readers to expect to be able to formulate and sell high quality manufactured products if they have neither the chemical knowledge nor the test equipment to select high quality raw materials as their starting point :-(
But I think your posting is very helpful in explaining the problem, and pointing towards what to look for in selecting raw materials vendors.
Luck & Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. Respected sir,
I want to start white and colour scented phenyl manufacture. In market, concentrate cost is very high; I am notable to start business so I want to prepare best phenyl concentrate. Please tell me.
Thanking you sir.
- khammam, Andhara Pradesh
February 5, 2014
Licenses required for phenyl manufacturing?
Q. Dear Sir,
We are consulting our client for phenyl MANUFACTURING in Pune MIDC area.
We want to know which licenses Company needs to be obtained for starting this business.
Thanks & with warm regards!
- Pune Maharashtra
February 22, 2014
Q. I want to start white and colour scented phenyl manufacture. In market, concentrate cost is very high; I am notable to start business so I want to prepare best phenyl concentrate. Please tell me formulation and raw materials concentrate preparation methods. Some raw material available in Chennai dealers address.
Thanking you,
- walajabad (kanchipuram dist), tamilnadu, India
April 11, 2014
Ed. note: Sorry, this RFQ is old & outdated, so contact info is no longer available. However, if you feel that something technical should be said in reply, please post it; no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?)
Hi cousin balamuralikrishnan. Please carefully study the previous responses, and then re-post some detailed questions in terms of the information that has already been generously offered. Getting good & useful ongoing answers always involves some work on your own behalf :-)
Heaven helps those who help themselves.
Luck and Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. Hi,
Does the water quality affect the stability of Emulsion?. Is it necessary to use only soft water / RO water to dilute the phenyl concentrate? What are the characteristics of a Good phenyl Concentrate?
- Salem, Tamilnadu, India
May 20, 2014
July 26, 2014
Q. How to make Harpic solution; please help me sir.
Aakash Srivastavastudent - Gorakhpur;Uttar-pradesh;India
How to Make Harpic Solution?
A. Hi Aakash. The formulation of proprietary products like Coca-Cola and Harpic brand cleaners are trade secrets protected by international law. If that is what you mean by Harpic solution, no one can tell you how to make them (your teacher should know that). But if you describe what general type of cleaner you are interested in, people may give you hints. Your school or area library should have books that cover such formulations -- and by reviewing such books you will truly learn something from the assignment.
(from The Chemical Formulary Vol. 23)
Have fun, and good luck!
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
A. If you can get a copy of the product MSDS, it will tell you the hazardous ingredients at the very least, and depending on the type of product sometimes those are the key bits. Other times the non-hazardous proprietary stuff is where some or all of the magic happens, though.
Ray Kremer
Stellar Solutions, Inc.
McHenry, Illinois
Q. How to increase essence/smell in white phenyl? Our phenyl smell is not spreading? Please tell me the solution for making of hard smelling white phenyl.
Yogiraj Bhimade- Solapur, Maharashtra, India
August 5, 2014
Q. Is there any license required to manufacture of white phenyl and toilet cleaner?
Arun Kumar Sharma- Delhi, INDIA
October 13, 2014
Q. Sir my question is: pH meter displays 0-14 only, so how can we measure 80-170 in pH for good quality of White phenyl Manufacturing?
Amit baranwal- birgunj, nepal
October 14, 2014
A. Hi Amit. That's a good question :-)
You are correct that 80-170 is not an appropriate value for pH. I think Satya was talking about water hardness: I'm not sure of the units, but possibly mg/l.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. Dear Sir What is a turkey red oil?
Shaik abdul rahamantransport - Hyderabad Telangana, India
October 9, 2014
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A. Well, I guess I'll answer the "Red Turkey Oil" question. Process Engineer - Phoenix, Arizona USA A. Hi,  Harry Parkes - Birmingham, UK |
Q. DEAR SIR, I'M MANUFACTURING WHITE phenyl IN MY HOME. IT'S LIKE GREASE LAYER IN GROUND. WHAT TO DO?
PAKKIR BALAJIKKtrading - CUDDALORE,TAMILNADU, India
November 11, 2014
Q. I want to make phenyl for toilet and tile cleaning purposes. So please tell me complete process of making phenyl. I read some pdfs but in that they have given making of only white phenyl. I want to make phenyl with different flavors and colors. So please help me.
Thank you in advance.
- Belgaum Karnataka India
November 24, 2014
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Ed. note: Please provide the URL/address of those pdfs, Praveen. Many of the people waiting in line in front of you seem to be looking for that information. Thanks.
A. Dear All
This is my pleasure to share the real formulation as used by us. There is no problem at all. Take 2.5 Kg. Turkey Red Oil (T.R.O) Mix 7.5 Kg. Pine Oil. Shake Well for 2 Minutes. leave this for 5 Minutes. Again shake well for 2 minutes. Leave again for 10 Minutes. Now add Alphox 200 Emulsifier of IGL about 1 Kg. slowly till the transparency is obtained. If some more emulsifier is required add this but not more than 1.2 Kg. in all. Now leave this compound for next 24 hours. Now you can make 10 times to 20 times water emulsion of white phenyl. In case you are satisfied with your process you can mix 30 times water to this compound. This will give you stable white floor cleaner with mind blowing fragrance.
Bhawna F.M.C.G Udyog - Delhi, India
? What is the Alphox 200?
shaik abdul rahaman- Hyderabad India
December 16, 2017
Q. I GOT BAD ODOR IN PERFUMED phenyl WITHIN 10 DAYS, I AM SHOCKED TO SEE THIS
PERFUME + EMULSIFIER
phenyl MANUFACTURER - CHENNAI, Tamil Nadu, INDIA
March 15, 2015
Q. What is a creosote oil.
sk abdul rahamanbaba chemicals - Hyderabad India
March 17, 2015
Dear Sir/s
It was good to go through so many comments of many manufacturers/ apparent established experts/ debutants and the keen observer Ted Mooney, P.E. RET, of finishing.com
Nowhere has LABSA [Linear Alkyl Benzene Sulphonic Acid] or acid slurry been discussed in the recipe of white disinfectant. I somehow cannot understand the role of cutting oil in domestic white Disinfectant, more popularly known as white phenyl. Cutting oil does not contain any antibacterial or disinfectant properties. Presence of pine oil 40% + acid slurry + emulsifier like nonionic + essential oil like oil of eucalyptus/lemon grass/ citronella should be added to get the desired results.
Making bogus white coloured solutions to befool the public should be stopped. I request Mr Ted Mooney not to remain silent and give a deep thought to queries of white disinfectants and a formula of a genuine white disinfectant.
Expert comments of chemists/consultants should be welcome and contacts to take consultancy should be added in this thread.
- Rourkela.odisha, India
March 22, 2015
Hi Ish. Thanks for the kind words; I post the Q&A's, but have no knowledge of disinfectant solutions; however, it seems that your complaint that cutting oil should never be used seems quite valid! Yes, I also find it silly when people won't consult a book or a patent, and want to go into business formulating & selling disinfectant solutions based solely on anonymous advice from strangers :-)
We post every response which offers technical information or advice; philosophically we do not believe in censoring postings just because we may disagree with them, and we are not qualified in this subject anyway :-)
But as for "contacts to take consultancy", consultants are very welcome to advertise here -- but not to solicit business via the plague called 'comment spam' which has already ruined so many sites; and asking the advertisers who pay the bills to also pay the cost of postings from people who want to pay nothing while trying to steer customers away from those who are paying certainly can't work :-) Thanks again.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
March 2015
Q. Dear Ish Kumar
Thanks for valuable answer about disinfectant phenyl.
Here I have a question, how many % of LABSA, Emulsifier & fragrance should be added in to 40% pine oil? Please explain the procedure of the same if possible, thanks.
- theissur, kerala, India
November 14, 2015
Q. Dear Sirs,
I have started a new business dealing with phenyl but the problem is separation. After some time it starts. Base looks like water, and on top it becomes like a layer. Please reply.
Thanks,
amit
- birgunj, nepal
March 29, 2015
? We are manufacturing coloured phenyl. I want to share my formula ...
Please suggest is it right or wrong.
First I am adding 2.5 ltr. Cutting oil in 100 ltr. water slowly slowly. And mixing 1-2 minute with plastic stick.
Then I am adding 1.5 ltr. Pine oil slowly slowly and mixing 1 minute.
Then I am mixing fragrance 200 ml. And mixing slowly slowly.
Then I am packing in plastic bottles.
So suggest me should I put mixed material for some time or should pack immediately after preparing phenyl?
shubh grah udyog - chhindwara madhya pradesh India
June 17, 2015
Q. I am manufacturing homemade phenyl of the mixture of cutting oil & pine oil but I did not get Thicker in level , so what types of chemical I should use for getting thick white phenyl,
Pls sir, tell me percentage of chemical to get right & thick white phenyl?
homemade phenyl - Pune, Maharashtra - India
October 2, 2015
Q. HOW to MIX THE CITRONELLA OIL IN phenyl? IT IS NOT MIXING WITH WATER, AND ODOR GOES OUT FROM THE phenyl. PLEASE HELP ME TO GIVE A SUGGESTION HOW TO KEEP ODOR IN phenyl.
PRITAM CHAKRABORTY- KOLKATA,WEST BENGAL, India
October 29, 2015
Q. What is the manufacturing process of Concentrated Dark green Phenyl with a pleasant long lasting fragrance? is there any other chemical for emulsifier instead of TRO? in the India there is famous sunny phenyl which is concentrated green, how can we manufacture it?
Kunal Agiwale- Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
December 7, 2015
Q. I WANT TO MAKE LINEAR ALKY BENZENE SULPHONIC ACID (POPULARLY KNOWN AS ACID SLURRY) BY BATCH METHOD. WHAT GRADE OF STAINLESS STEEL SHOULD BE USED FOR THE SULPHONATION AND THE SEPARATION.
ASLO HOW THE PRODUCT CAN BE MADE LIGHT IN COLOR WITH MAXIMUM ACTIVE DETERGENCY (90% AND ABOVE)?
FORMULATOR - LUDHIANA
March 19, 2016
Approvals & Certificates for White phenyl
Q. I am a manufacturer of White phenyl in Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India. What are the quality and standard certificates I can get for my product? I wish to establish a brand image by getting quality certificates and approvals. Who should I approach and how shall I apply? What are protocols to be followed? I am grateful to your help.
MANIVANNAN RAJAGOPALCleaning Chemical Manufacturer - Chennai, Tamilnadu, India
July 6, 2016
! Nowadays white Phenyl is being made with transparent base mixed with perfume as per like and dilute with water 1:20.
It is stable white Phenyl with pure milk white color and can stored for long without any separation.
- Visakhapatnam, Andhra Pradesh
Q. Please tell me how to increase the viscosity of w. phenyl without decreasing the quantity of water .
Ashwini kumar- Patna, Bihar, India
March 9, 2017
Q. May I know what is the chemical used to bring the white colour in phenol.
Pari vallalbannari amman colours - Coimbatore,Tamil Nadu, India
June 27, 2017
Q. Hi everybody.
I am facing a problem with white phenyl that when I store it in a bottle then it produces gas. Any solution for that?
- Delhi, India
September 23, 2017
Q. Hello, I am trying to make white phenyl without using TRO, is it possible?
So I am from Indonesia and I can't find emulsifier as mentioned by most of you like Alfox 200, or even TRO.
Can you help? As I have been using NP-9 or nonylphenol ethoxylate as my emulsifier or their market name known as Tergitol
Please do help as I want my product uses mainly Citronella oil, Pine oil. Please . Need a good formulation to at least 4L product.
- Pekanbaru, riau, indonesia
October 10, 2017
A. Very common emulsion TRO and Alfox 200. If you are not getting it, try to use stearic acid ⇦this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] (0.5%) with pine oil mix SLES you will get good results. Other than sles everything natural products. Very good quality. But mixing process need some chemical knowledge.
Banamali NepakManufacturer - Bhubaneswar, India
Q. I am a small manufacturer of phenyl but nowadays I am facing a problem of "What dilution I have in my phenyle?" and I don't even know about it because I am just mixing Concentrated phenyle with water & Selling it, Please help me in understanding what is the meaning & how can I check "DILUTION"?
sharad VAIDHYA- Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh
December 14, 2017
A. Hi Sharad. Dilution is the opposite of concentration. If you are mixing one part of concentrated phenyle with 9 parts of water, you have diluted it 9 to 1 and its concentration is 1 part in 10 or 10%.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. Sir,
give us some detail info about how much & how to make thick material of White Phenol.
Thanks
Waiting For your early response.
Raj Chemical Works - DHULE Maharashtra India
December 14, 2017
Q. In a training program for students, black phenyl was made; but after adding to water, white emulsion was not thick and oil separated. The pH was 7 and Specific gravity 1.1. What can be the reason and how can we correct it ?
Vijay Kothiwale- Vadodara, Gujarat, India
January 24, 2018
Hi Vijay. There were countless unanswered questions on this topic before yours was posted. Maybe a good exercise for your students would be to try to answer one or more of them? Good luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
ACRONYMS:
SLES = Sodium Laureth sulphate
A. For better emulsion of white phenyle use pine oil, SLES, Alphox 200 and citronella oil. This formula will help to make better emulsion.
Himmat singh shekhawatBhagwati chemicals - jaipur, Rajasthan
Q. Dear sir
We want to manufacture pine oil type white water colour white phenyl concentrate.
Please help us.
Krishna chemical - Udaipur Rajasthan India
March 12, 2018
Hi Vinod. Himmat just finished answering that question. Readers, please post your followup questions in terms of what has already been said. Simply starting over with a general open-ended question 16 years and 150 postings later won't move things forward :-)
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. How to make a phenyl that whitens the water?
Rushiraj Pandya- Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
April 23, 2018
Q. Hi everyone I am from Nagpur, I have started white phenyl manufacturing. In starting I was making good quality phenyl.
I was making phenyl in two formulas, one with pine oil and emulsifier, and second pine oil and TRO and alfox 200.
I was not facing any problems but after a little gap I faced a problem making white phenyl: when I add water in concentrate then it was fading like milk fade; then I used to shake and afterwards it diluted. But when I made big qty in plastic container of 20 ltr, and filled in 5 ltr can and after some time (approx. a month_ it was separating like water and some other and colour with light. What should I check on?
And if pine or emulsifier is expired what should I do? Hope you will help.
Rich - Nagpur Maharashtra India / indian
May 3, 2018
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Ed. note: While awaiting help, try to answer one or two of the open questions please!
A. Many here suggest TRO (sulphonated castor oil) or castor oil along with Pine oil for making White Phenyl. I really do not know why. Phenyl is based on Pine oil and is an oil-in-water emulsion. The oil needs to be well emulsified and added slowly into RO treated water. Choice of emulsifier does the trick. Synthetic non-ionic thickeners are used to increase the viscosity. The ideal end pH is between 5.5 and 6.5 and the emulsion will be stable for many months without any separation.
SS KUMARManufacturer of high quality home cleaning products - Kolkata India
A. Use detergent grade CMC for thickening of white phenyl.
nilesh gupta- raipur , chhatisgarh , India
Q. Which is a better option, adding water to phenyl concentrate or adding phenyl concentrate to water?
Mihir ShahShree Kumud Enterprise - Vapi, Gujarat, INDIA
July 17, 2018
Q. I have one problem about manufacturing process.
I have to reduce cost of concentrate. Now cost of 1 ltr = 190rs in my process but other manufacturer cost is 1 ltr=130.
Can you tell me cost reducing formula?
My formula is now for 1 ltr concentrate
1) pine oil 22 percent is 750 gram.
2) emulsifier is 125 gram
3) alfox 200 is 125 gram.
4) TRO is 30 gram.
5) perfume is 50 grams for one ltr concentrate.
- Amravati , Maharashtra, India
July 30, 2018
Q. Sir We are manufacturing of white phenyl with pine oil, IGFSUR 5275 PE and Alphox 200. but product are start separation in two layer with week, kindly advise us where is problem.
Thanks
- Biratnagar Nepal
September 8, 2018
Perfume suggestions
Q. sir please tell me witch type perfume used in white or colour phenyl -- water soluble or oil base.
And which type used colour in cleaner.
- surat, gujarat, India
September 6, 2018
Q. Dear sir I want to know stable formulations of toilet cleaner, liquid soap for hand wash, and liquid soap for body wash, white phenyl, floor cleaner, tile cleaner, marble cleaner, glass cleaner which will be stable for a year long without any problem.
Please anybody suggest me a book of formulation of cleaning product, cosmetics extra.
Please anybody refer me a proper trainer of science background technical background in West Bengal Kolkata India ok cleaning chemical product and cosmetics.
Adi - Basirhat, West Bengal, India.
September 23, 2018
Q. I am Amit Das and I am manufacturing white phenyl for some years by now.
I have so far tried various formulas to make white phenyl thick but I always find some kind of ring formation onto the neck of the bottle. It looks like the oil or fat deposits on the top after adding the top. What is the solution?
- Burdwan West bengal, India
October 19, 2018
A. Hi Amit. While awaiting replies, please try to help one of the many people standing in line in front of you. Since you have been manufacturing white phenyl for years, I'm sure they would greatly appreciate your help! Good luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
About licensing for white floor cleaner
Q. ABOUT LICENSING FOR WHITE FLOOR CLEANER. I PURCHASE CONCENTRATE. I AM BOTTLING & MIXING WATER & MARKETING IT IN MY OWN BRAND NAME.
WHAT IS THE LEGAL PROCEDURE?
- KOLKATA, WEST BENGAL. INDIA
September 8, 2019
Q. In my country, pine oil is available in 65% concentration. While making phenyl concentrate, I have been asked to use 22% concentration of pine oil. Can someone help me and share the knowledge about how to dilute pine oil to bring it to concentration of 22% ?
Mehmood AliChemical Distributor - Sargodha, Punjab, Pakistan
July 31, 2019
A. Look this problem arises due to non-equal use of emulsifier and pine oil. You need to use exact composition of ingredients. Using TRO and Pine oil in appropriate ratio will solve your issue. Formulation is here:
formulations.auchemicals.com/formulations/formulation-of-white-phenyl-pine-oil-disinfectant/
CEO APEX United Chemicals - Lahore, Pakistan
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Ed. note: 1 part TRO to 1/2 parts Pine Oil per postings above.
The phenyl got curdled and oil separated
Q. The phenyl got curdled so now what to do sir?
- Hyderabad, Secunderabad, India
October 11, 2020
Q. Already start to make white phenyl at home, ingredients are:
1)pine oil, 2) TRO and 3)Alphox 200.
But thickness is not good and after some days arises problem of separation. Please help me to solve this problem.
- Kolkata west Bengal
November 21, 2020
Q. How to mix oil & water properly, (oil= natural oil, water = Demineralized water)
SARIT GOSWAMIHobbyist - BERHAMPORE [India]
January 9, 2022
A. It is very easy to Mix Oil and Water properly, and you need to have surfactant for this. Surfactant is something which converts oil-soluble to water-soluble.
But you need to understand what kind of oil you have and its properties.
Manufacturer Cleaning Products - Dehradun [India]
Q. How to spread more and consistently the fragrance used in white phenyl?
Sambit MukherjeeStudent - Kolkata, India
April 6, 2022
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