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Passive anodes in the acid copper plating bath
2005
I'm doing some experiments with copper plating basically for breadboarding circuits with plated holes and learning the PCB manufacturing process.
I got a fairly functional copper sulphate
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/ HCl and uses a copper anode made from a piece of copper grounding rod.
I got really bad results until I added citrate ions to the solution, after which I got excellent bonding and an unoxidized (but not smooth and shiny) finish that I can polish fairly easily. Since I was trying to do this without ordering any specialty chemicals, the citrate ions came from calcium citrate tablets that I dissolved in distilled water and decanted into the bath, leaving the sand/talc/whatever behind. The solution should have 0.1% citrate ions by mole count. I figured the small amount of calcium would plate out, and the microcrystaline cellulose doesn't seem to be hurting anything.
But that's not my question, just what I'm working with. I read that for electronics work that I should be using phosphorized copper anodes. In one article at this site someone had trouble with his phosphorised copper anode in that it was turning non-conductive.
So being really cheap I used a copper phosphorus brazing rod as an anode just to see what would happen, and sure enough, it turned black and non-conductive in less than a minute. Probably because it's 7%(!) phosphorus. I'm quite sure that using a copper-phosphorus brazing rod is the wrong material and I may have screwed up the solution, but it led to some questions.
My questions are
1) what is the purpose of a phosphorized anode?
2) what the heck is the black stuff that seems to evaporate when exposed to the air?
3) what is meant by the "polarized anode" and by what physical mechanism does it arise?
4) ignoring the phosphorus fiasco, what is the appropriate level of citric acid
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SCHMITZ ENGINEERING, LLC. - Pinckney, Michigan
2007
TUTORIAL FOR NEWBIES:
Beginners may find it hard to follow some of this dialog, so we've added some sidebar notes :-)
1. When electroplating, the metal which is plated out of the solution should ideally be automatically replaced by metal dissolving into the solution from the anodes.
In some plating situations (like nickel plating), if the anodes don't dissolve fast enough, the plating solution becomes "starved" of metal and the anodes oxidize, compounding the problem.
But in the case of acid copper plating the problem is usually the reverse: the anode dissolves too fast and creates a zone of copper ions around the anode, comprising an insulating film so that plating current can't flow. In either case we may say the anodes became 'passive'. In the case of nickel we may add sulfur
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to the anodes so they dissolve easier; in the case of copper we may add phosphorous so they dissolve slower.
2. 'Woods Nickel Strike' is often the first plating layer applied to stainless steel, and is designed to deal with the fact that it's hard to get good adhesion of plating onto stainless steel. The strike simultaneously dissolves the oxide on the stainless and lays down a thin layer of nickel.
3. A "Hull Cell" is a very small (usualy 267 ml) "test" plating tank; a sample of plating solution is put into it to try to determine whether the problem is with the plating solution vs. other steps in the process or features of the installation.
Q. Hello we have a problem with passive anodes in the copper acid bath.
We are copper plating on stainless steel.
Firstly we make Wood's Nickel strike, next we put copper layer in the copper acid bath.
During electroplating of small parts we don't have any problems; but in the case of 3X bigger parts, the current in a few minutes decreases and the copper anodes are covered with a black coating. We tried to solve this problem by using additional anodes and increasing the sulfuric acid H2SO4 but it doesn't work. Anode to cathode ratio is 1:1. The test in the Hull Cell goes correctly.
Composition of our copper plating bath:
Copper - Cu 60 g/l
Sulfuric acid - H2SO4 70 g/l
Temp 22 °C
Current at start 2 A/dm2
Mixed by air
Do you have any suggestions to correct this problem?
Plating shop employee - Cracow, Poland
A. Waldemar,
For general purpose acid copper plating solutions: CuSO4 190-250 g/l, H2SO4 150-225 g/l, Chloride ion 30-80 ppm. You did not mention the chloride concentration in the bath, I hope you have one. It is quite natural to gradually build up a dark film on the anodes as long as the sulfuric acid concentration is where it should be. Two other things to check if the solution parameters are in range: Make sure you are getting good contact on your anode bar and cable connections. Check current on both the cathode and anode bar(s) with the high area (cathode) load in the tank. The readings should match current readings on your rectifier. Good Luck!
Process Engineer - Syracuse, New York
2007
TUTORIAL:
To prevent copper anodes from going passive in acid copper plating baths, two chemical factors are usually employed: a small amount of chloride ions should be in the solution as described by Mark; and the anodes should not be pure copper, but should be phosphorized copper as mentioned by Francisco.
A. Hello Waldemar
As Mark said, in fact you haven't mentioned the chloride content, and also you need to make sure that the anodes have a phosphorus content.
- Aveiro - Portugal
2007
2007
TUTORIAL:
Sometimes anodes are large slabs of copper; but more often they are golf-ball size or smaller chunks that are put into perforated titanium baskets.
When anodes dissolve, particles can fall off; to prevent them from depositing on the work, the anodes or anode baskets are put into pillowcase-like anode bags.
A. Pull the anode bags, empty and clean the anodes of smut.
Then clean the baskets. Lastly, leach new bags and put the clean anodes in. Put them back on the anode bars. VERY easy problem. VERY easy cure. No chemical notions needed. Try it, you'll be thankful you did.
Warren, Michigan, USA
A. Dear Waldemar,
You have copper sulphate concentration too high. 60 g/L of copper in the bath means over 230 g/L of copper sulphate. Your bath cannot operate correctly at 22 °C because of thin layer of copper sulphate on the surface of anodes. The layer blocks current. You should reduce copper concentration or increase temperature up to 30 °C.
Best regards
- Poland
2007
? Hello Waldemar,
which types of anodes are you using?
Regards,
- Mexico City, Mexico
2007
A. Dear Waldemar,
Acronyms
DM = demineralized water
The formation of dye scale is a common practice in bright acid copper bath, due to its brighteners and additives. You can go for cleaning of your phosphorised copper anodes twice or thrice a week, I hope this may not be a problem, if you are using less quantities of anodes. And however, please maintain chloride content of your bath as prescribed and see that the DM water you are using should not contribute chloride ion to your acid copper bath.
Good Luck!
Shafiuddin A. Mohammed
metal coating shop - Dubai, United Arab Emirates
September 20, 2008
Q. Dear all,
We are also facing the same problem as my friend. While the anodes are not in use, we find that the white paste like formation over phosphorized copper ball anodes and causing decreasing urrent density in spite of maintaining the required chemical concentration. We have taken out the anodes and washed and put it back into the tank. Now it is okay but we have to check whether the same problem will repeat.
Regards,
- Chennai, TamilNadu, India
2007
TUTORIAL:
CD = current density.
"Dummy plate" means plating out onto waste cathode sheets at a low current density as a way of removing contaminants.
A. SG,
I cannot stress enough - maintain the chloride level in the bath per supplier's specs. If the bath will be idle for more than three days, pull the anode baskets and soak in 5% sulfuric until they are ready for use. Rinse well, dummy plate at low CD for an hour or so. The sulfuric holding tank will etch a slight amount of Cu, but not enough to cause any harm. Good Luck!
Process Engineer - Syracuse, New York
January 16, 2013
Q. We are using acid copper plating bath for our printed wiring board copper plating process.
We are unable to maintain the copper sulphate concentration in plating bath and the concentration drops daily.
Control range :
CuSO4 = 9-12 oz/gal
H2SO4 = 24-26 oz/gal
After adjusting the CuSO4 concentration, it seems to drop to 8 oz/gal overnight.
There isn't any dilution on my bath.
There isn't leakage from the machine.
Ideally, the concentration should not drop as the process goes on daily.
Is this due to poor activation/anodizing of my copper anodes?
We've checked the copper anodes and they have a dark black film on the copper balls.
- Los Angeles, California
A. Hi Jake,
You may verify chloride content (usually ~50 ppm) in acid copper plating bath which does involve in copper anode dissolution. Also, please check if the copper anode you're using contains phosphorous (~0.04-0.06 wt%) and any abnormal high rectifier voltage observed. Copper anode without phosphorous and/or abnormal high rectifier voltage may result poor anode dissolution.
Regards,
David
David Shiu
- Singapore
January 20, 2013
January 21, 2013
Q. Hi David,
Thank you for your response.
My bath contains 80 ppm chloride.
And we are using copper balls with 0.04-0.06 wt%.
Meanwhile, when you mentioned the voltage to be high, what would be the normal operating voltage for the anodes?
What would be considered as high voltage?
Thank you.
- Los Angeles, California
A. Hi Jake, David Shiu - Singapore January 23, 2013 A. First, a black film on the anodes in your bath is normal. Second, acid copper baths I've run pretty much stayed below 3V. James Totter, CEF - Tallahassee, Florida January 23, 2013 |
February 2, 2013
Q. Hi David,
The voltage on my rectifiers are above 4V.
Is this considered high?
Meanwhile, there's only one contact point on my cathode bar to the rectifiers.
Will it be better to have both ends on the bar connected to the rectifier?
My plating current is only between 3 - 6 Amperes.
This is rather low compared to 100 A that you are doing right now.
Appreciate your comments and input.
Q. Hi James,
What do you suggest for the plating surface ratio between anode:cathode?
Is 1.5:1.0 good enough?
What will be the maximum ratio?
Thanks!
- Los Angeles, California
A. Hi Jake, David Shiu - Singapore February 6, 2013 A. Try increasing the ratio to 2:1 anode to cathode, and the anodes should extend below the bottom of the cathode to some extent. 4V seems a little high, but increasing the anode area should bring that down some. James Totter, CEF - Tallahassee, Florida February 6, 2013 |
November 12, 2013
Q. Hello Sir/Madam,
bright acid copper anodes get gray instead of black and plating becoming very very slow. Rectifier voltage goes up while plating in ON ... normally it goes down (e.g., 1 volt goes 1.2 or 1.4). Before it was set to 1 V goes 0.9 or 0.8V
In my area no hull cell testing no lab for electroplating test. I did clean it was working fine mirror finish, but after few hours same problem.
Check attacked pictures. We use bags; they where normal from outside inside it was some black & gray. Using Phosphorized copper 0.04 to 0.08% anodes. Cu anodes are then put in Ti basket and then wear bags.
2nd picture was taken about 72 hours -- second time cleaning seems darker color than 1st picture.
Regards,
Dipen Pattni
jeweler/goldsmith - Dar-Es-Salaam, Tanzania
A. Hello Dipen, Process Engineer - Mesa, Arizona, USA November 15, 2013 A. Hi Dipen, David Shiu - Singapore November 17, 2013 |
December 11, 2013
Dear Sir,
I did not reply until now because I had given Cu solution for test but seems they did mistake. Attached is analysis report.
I'm planning to do zinc dust
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, carbon treatment and then add 1st brightener and start working.
Thanks,
Dipen Pattni
jeweler/goldsmith - Dar-Es-Salaam, Tanzania
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Ed. note: We cropped out the name of the test lab because they understandably wouldn''t want their name on copies they do not have control over or which could be altered.
January 1, 2014
Q. Hi,
Got new report from India for same Acid copper solution says:-
copper sulphate/229.59 (gm/lt)
sulfuric Acid/ 79.35 (ml/lt)
Chloride / (49.63 ppm)
Copper metal 58.42 (gm/lt)
Advised to make 30% dilution ... add 3 ml/lt hydrochloric acid (32 ml/lt), carbon treatment ... add 1st & 2nd brightener.
Regards,
Dipen Pattni
jeweler/goldsmith - Dar-Es-Salaam, Tanzania
Current problem with acid copper
Q. Lately I have been having a problem with my acid copper. After I put in the pieces to copper plate, the amps go down to zero. It is like it loses contact. It resists for about five minutes then slowly lowers until zero. All contacts are clean but I noticed that the anodes blacken quickly.
John PerilliEmployee - Italy
October 25, 2018
A. Hi John. It certainly sounds like your anodes have gone passive. What type of copper are they, and are you monitoring your chloride level?
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
October 2018
A. PASSIVE ANODE PROBLEM IN YOUR ACID COPPER BATH.
YOU ARE RUNNING LOW CONC.OF copper sulphate NEEDS TO BE 190-250 G/L, CHECK YOUR RECTIFIER AND CONTACT WORKING RIGHT, CHECK YOUR CHLORIDE CONCENTRATION IN ACID COPPER BATH.
Popatbhai B. Patel
electroplating consultant - Roseville, Michigan
October 31, 2018
Q. Sorry to ask another question, but I would like to know how to check chloride content and what it is. I have little experience in acid copper plating.
John Perilli [returning]- Rome, Italy
October 31, 2018
A. Hi John. There is an excellent discussion of chloride analysis in acid copper plating baths on thread 0885.
If you have little experience in acid copper plating, the Metal Finishing Guidebook provides a good introduction, and there are specialized texts available such as Electroplating and Electroless Plating of Copper and Its Alloys ⇦[this on on Amazonaffil links]. For more info about analysis of plating baths, Langford and Parker, Analysis of Electroplating and Related Solutions [on on Amazon, ... on AbeBooks affil links] is the "go-to" reference. Best of luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
November 2018
Thank you for your reply!
John Perilli [returning]- Rome, Italy
November 1, 2018
Q. Dear all experts,
I am performing copper plating on stainless steel wire with usual acid based copper plating solution with copper anodes in the basket. What I have observed yesterday that the copper anodes, part which are immersed in the electrolyte solution, is turning into black. It seems that it is a black film of something, unknown, is being deposited. That film can be removed by water rinsing or by rubbing on the surface. Does anybody has any idea what is that film and why it is being built? The concentration of H2SO4 is fine. Chlorine content are not measured yet.
Kind Regards,
Ridwaan
- Karachi, Pakistan
July 2, 2020
Q. My copper sulphate content is continuously decreasing in acid copper bath. I have also monitored the drain valve, there is no leakage or wastage of the solution. Kindly suggest me a solution to overcome this issue.
Annie Tahir- Lahore, Pakistan
July 6, 2020
A. Hello Annie. You are electroplating copper out of the solution -- it is going onto the parts. But what is supposed to be happening is that the copper anodes should be dissolving into the solution in proper proportion to keep the copper concentration stable. It seems that your anodes have gone passive. Please study this thread and threads 31751 and 44771.
Luck & Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
July 2020
September 14, 2020
Hello there,
We have the same problem with black film on the copper anodes. I just got the chemical analysis result which says that:
Cu = 53 g/L
H2SO4 = 128 g/L
Chloride = 48 mg/L.
It seems that the sulfuric acid amount is more than double of the suggested amount (60 g/L). I am going to take out some amount the copper bath and will dilute the rest with water to reduce the sulfuric acid value.
I will let you know guys.
Thanks for the wonderful thread on this issue.
Kind Regards
Ridwaan
- Karachi, Pakistan
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