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F.B. Rogers Tea Set -- How to know Silver Plate or Sterling Silver




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Q. My tray also has a red sticker that say F.B. Rogers silver company Taunton, Mass. Does this give it a time?

Lee VanHouten
- grand junction Colorado usa
August 24, 2014


A. Hello Lee. Rogers moved to Taunton in 1866, so it doesn't mean anything except that the piece is not from before 1866. Unless it is stamped "Sterling", it isn't. And if it isn't, it's value is almost surely nothing. Sorry, nobody wants this stuff, and there is an awful lot of it available. My wife has several such silver plated trays in the attic. In fact I don't think I know anyone "of a certain age" who doesn't because it was a popular wedding gift for a couple of decades :-(

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Q. Following the discussion of FB Rogers silverplate I have a small oval footed dish with "Made in Denmark"" stamped on it. It appears to have an anodized green surface in the bowl. It reminds me of the anodized aluminum containers from the 1950's. My question: is that the process they used to make the color in the bowl, or is it a coating of green glass? And is there any significance that it was made in Denmark?

Carol Self
- Port Hadlock, Washington
October 23, 2014




Q. I have a silver tea set with FB Rogers stamped on the bottom, in the middle, but that's it; no other markings, block letters. Also had a small inspection tag. It's not magnetic and there is copper underneath, I can tell. Currently it needs polishing, was purchased in the mid 70's. Can you help? Was this an actual FB Rogers stamp?

Norris Harward
- Dublin, California
January 9, 2015


A. Hi Norris. Sorry, but that stuff is almost surely silverplate and it's almost surely worth almost nothing. Simply, there are many more people with this stuff in their attic than there are people who want it. Don't shoot the messenger please :-)

While most anything can be counterfeited it seems quite unlikely to me that someone would go to the expense and risk of faking a manufacturer's stamp when that stamp adds no value to the item. Tracing the history of the Rodgers name and trademarks is a difficult task that you would need to put countless hours into, but you can start at
http://silverandsilverplate.blogspot.com/2010/04/clearing-up-rogers-confusion-marks-and.html

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Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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Q. I now possess a bowl with Paul Revere FB Rogers Silver Co.
6 Reproduction. Do I have something that I need to get an insurance appraisal on? It also has the 1883 on it yet I found that is when the company started. Thank you for answering this question for me.

Sue Rinehart-Schulz
- Ford, Washington USA
March 31, 2015


A. Hi Sue. Sorry to say that odds are very strong that it's worth essentially nothing.

Luck & Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
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Q. Hi,
I have a silverplate teapot with the markings F.B. Rogers Silver Co.
Above, the words TRADE MARK are on either side of a cross in an arch above a crown with 18 and 63 on either side. Does the age of this teapot, add to its' value, or is still $15-$30? What is the best way to clean silver plate, including darkened areas? Thanks for your patience in answering all of our questions.

Erika Burke
- San Francisco, California
April 15, 2015


thumbs up signHi folks. Sure, there's a chance that one in a million of these items is worth something, and people have referred you to sources and routes that you can study if you want to invest the time. I don't want to be rude, but simply, the odds are overwhelming that the pieces are worth nothing.

The best way to clean silver plate is with aluminum foil or an aluminum "silver cleaning plate" and washing soda this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] as explained in thread 4785. You may need to finish up with silver polish, but don't do the heavy cleaning with polish because polish removes silver whereas the aluminum cleaning plate converts silver tarnish back to silver.

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
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! If you have 1883 F B ROGERS SILVER with crown hallmark you should be able to make out the word quadruple. Which meant it was silver plated 4 times. After the early 1900's they stopped plating in quadruple silver. And went to just silver plated which has considerably less silver on it.

Olivia McGuire
- New haven, Connecticut USA
April 4, 2016


A. Quadruple plate contained 8 tr.oz. of silver plate per gross (144 pieces) of teaspoons. The plating was about 1.2 mils thick (.0012"). In 1975, quadruple plate was still being produced, mainly for places like hotel restaurants.

Chris Owen
- Nevada, Missouri, USA




Q. I have a question for you guys. I have a creamer and sugar set that has the crown and all the markings like it should. However my set says 12 oz and 13 oz on each. Mean anything?

Ria ott
- sun prairie, Wisconsin
October 27, 2016


Hi Ria. I'll bet the one holds 12 liquid ounces and the other 13 liquid ounces :-)

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
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Q. F B ROGERS STERLING SILVER TRAY WITH 18 TO LEFT AND 83 TO RIGHT OF CROWN. WHAT IS THE VALUE OF SUCH AN ITEM. IT IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION BUT IT NEEDS POLISHING.

NAY DAUD
COLLECTOR - PHOENIX, ARIZONA, USA
January 14, 2017


A. Hi Nay. Any "We buy gold" store will test that it is sterling (which is very unlikely unless it is so marked), weigh it, and give you the current value of the melted down silver. If you are sure that it is sterling, you could list it on eBay ... but remember that the prices you see on eBay [adv: item on eBay] are primarily what stuff is not selling for, rather than what it is selling for :-)

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
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Q. Hi. I am a resident of the UK, Ashton Under Lyne near Manchester in Lancashire. I have in my possession a FB Rogers Creamer and Sugar Bowl with lid that I purchased from a charity shop a few years ago. I have just decided to look up the stamp. FB ROGERS intaglio stamp. And then in a fainter stamp FB ROGERS, Silverplated. USA on the creamer and vice verser on the sugar bowl.

I chanced upon this thread and read through whether or not I would be quids in. Alas it seems this be not the case. It would be interesting to find out when exactly it was made to give a clear view of their period.

Regardless of their worthlessness, if what I read here is correct, there is no doubt I have a couple of bonny trinkets for the old den!

Kind regards

Andrew Craven
- Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, UK
November 5, 2017


A. Hi Andrew. There's nothing wrong with liking what you like and proudly displaying it. So good :-)

The problems only arise when ...
1. people assume that silverplate must be a valuable rarity because they rarely see it ... when the actual situation is more like such items are stored in attics because this once popular look is out of fashion.
2. they assume that silverplate must have significant intrinsic metal value because, after all, there is silver in the plating ... not recognizing that the plating is very very thin and recovering the silver is more costly than its value.

Liking it is fine; expecting to make money selling it, not so much :-)

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
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F.B. ROGERS ITALY F.B.R.-EP. ZINC Trivet

Q. About 20 yrs ago a friend gave me a heart shaped trivet with scrolling in the center. On the back it says:F.B.ROGERS ITALY (on the top left) On the top right it says:F.B.ROGERS-E.P. ZINC. I've read the threads and have not seen one addressing zinc. HELP!

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Carrie Vance
- Potsdam, New York USA
November 26, 2017


A. Hi Carrie. It probably means 'electroplated with zinc'. If you look on eBay you will see dozens of rather similar zinc plated trivets with asking prices of $6 to $30. By all means enjoy it, but it has no special metal value or collector value. Zinc Plated Trivets on eBay

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
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Q. We just picked up an F.B. Rogers Silver Company item in the box with the title: THE LOG
It's a heavy trinket box shaped like a log and the cover is removable. Looks silver plate which is expected. However, there are absolutely no markings at all on the piece. Was this typical at some point for the company? Any info is appreciated.

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Thank you

Mitch Silverstein
- Nyack, New York USA
March 22, 2018




Q. I have a Silver Revere Bowl (not sure if it's Sterling or plated -- will have to look and add that info later) that says Ford 75th anniversary on it. I cannot locate another anywhere online and I'm trying to determine its value.

William T
- GREENWOOD, Indiana
July 2, 2018


Hi William. This site is about the technology of finishes, not antiquing or valuations. Although I see no silver bowls commemorating Ford's 75th Anniversary on eBay , there are dozens of other items which tell us that the date was 1978; and most of those items are listed quite cheap. So it's not old, it's not silver unless it's marked 'Sterling', and few people use silver bowls anymore, so I doubt that there is much of a market for it … but good luck.

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




! Hello,
I am from Belgium. I had a Dutch girl friend who is experienced in "treasure hunting".

She once found a large set of silver cutlery from the famous Christoffle in a garage sale.

They asked 15 euro for the 10-person set.
She even had the nerve to offer 13 euro for it :-)

So go out and find yourself a nice treasure. Some people really don't know what they've got.

Roel van bael
- Turnhout, Belgium
November 1, 2018




Q. I have a F. B Rogers Silver Co.
1883 silver plate tea set

And just wanted to know there is a number on the bottom of one of the items and it says "1211" can you tell me what these markings mean for further identification of other items as well?
I am starting to get back into silver items again but I don't know much about any of the markings and symbols.

Reese Woods
- Grove, Oklahoma, Usa
March 11, 2019


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A. Hi Reese. This is just a public forum for discussing such things. Unfortunately, people posting the markings on their pieces has mostly led only to long lists of unanswered questions rather than discussion :-(
But there are links on this thread to books on the topic, to helpful pages of hallmarks, to suggestions that you check eBay for similar items [adv: item on eBay], plus some general hints that silverplate probably has no value. So I'd suggest reading the previous entries rather than waiting for someone to answer your question :-(

Luck & Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
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Q. How much is a tea pot from F.B. Rogers silver company really worth with the trademark and date stamped on the bottom worth? I was helping a couple move about 2 weeks ago and she said here you can have this and so I took it because I didn't want to upset her seeing I didn't want anything for helping them out.

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I can tell it's silver but what I don't know is how much it's really worth.

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Robyn Davis
- NINE MILE FALLS WASHINGTON
June 12, 2019


A. Hi Robyn. It's almost surely silverplate with no intrinsic (melted) value; it's only worth what people are willing to pay for it, and that's probably nothing because it's not in style and similar stuff is in a lot of attics & basements and on eBay for under $25. Sorry :-(
But if you like it, that's what matters :-)

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey


A. I've read that silver produced in the 1800s had symbols before they started using 925, 800, and so forth. I have the exact same tea pitcher and the crown represents silver. Others are espl, but early 20th century is when they used numbers to represent sterling silver. So you were right I believe it is sterling silver not silver plated

Geoffrey choy
Hobby - Orlando Florida
December 26, 2021




Q. I bought a glass Tea pot on a stand w/candle under it, listed as F. B. ROGERS.
The white box is beside it w/"F B Rogers" printed on the bottom of the box. Merchant sold it to me as OLD and listed as Sterling Silver.
What year did F B Rogers print on their own white boxes?

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Lynna Karanutsos
- Albany Oregon
December 4, 2019




Q. I have a tea set and some platters that are FB Rogers silver on copper... Dynasty 3002 ... worth anything? If not, how should I dispose of them?

Cheryl Dabrow
- Havertown, Pennsylvania USA
February 19, 2020


A. Hi Cheryl. All we can say is:
1. Silverplate is generally essentially worthless.
2. You can hunt for comparison pricing for similar stuff on eBay [adv: item on eBay] or Etsy, Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, or Freecycle if you think we're overly pessimistic.
3. There are sites which will evaluate stuff for a fee, but for silverplate the fee will probably exceed its value.

Sorry, but there is nobody here to do research for you, and odds are strong that each of the next 100 people posting here will want people to comment on their stuff rather than offering an evaluation of someone else's :-(

You can try donating it to a church auction, or to Goodwill, or try selling or giving it away through one of the sites I mentioned. Good luck.

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey


Q. Hello my name is Connie and I have read most of this thread and didn't see exactly what my two goblets have stamped on them. My goblets have stamped on the bottoms 'trade mark with a crown 18 on one side of crown and 83 on other side, under that it says F.B. ROGERS SILVER CO.'

I don't see anything else, no number or words

Any ideas?

Thank you for your time.

Connie Vivenzi
Collector - Petaluma California
March 10, 2020


A. Hi Connie. This site covers 60,000 topics, and we're always pleased to provide a potential gathering place for people interested in discussing any topic vaguely related to finishing -- including of course F.B. Rogers silverplate -- so we're happy to post your inquiry!

But posting questions does no good unless the readers are interested enough in the subject to engage in conversations about other people's pieces, not just ask questions about their own :-(
Unfortunately that doesn't seem to currently be the case, but keep your fingers crossed :-)

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
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Q. Hello everyone, I have two tea pot/coffee pots with the crown Symbol and FB Rogers with the year 1960 can anyone give me any information on these? Thank you very much have a blessed day

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Maria Couch
- California
May 24, 2020


A. Hi Maria. I don't know quite what info you seek but there's a lot of info about FB Rogers on this thread. This stuff was apparently popular as a wedding gift in the 40's and 50's, but almost nobody wants it today and it is only plated, not sterling, so it has no worthwhile metal value. Maybe people may once again want it sometime in the future.
1960 is a pattern number, not a "year". It's one of thousands of FB Rogers patterns. You can see a number of pots of pattern 1960 for sale on eBay , Etsy, and other places; just google "FB Rogers 1960". Good luck.

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




Q. I purchased a silver punch bowl from an auction It was heavily tarnished. I found a trade mark 1883 F B Rogers silver company. Is she silver or silver plated. Currently in the process of cleaning her.

Lisa caulder
- Dillon South Carolina
February 22, 2021


A. Hi Lisa. "1883" represents the age of the company, not the punchbowl. It's silverplate. All sterling silver is stamped '925' or 'Sterling'. According to icollectsterling.com this has been the case since 1849.

Luck & Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




Q. I have a Rogers sterling 1255. I'm assuming from all these other answers it is plated. Is there any value in this or is it junk? Thanks.

Kay Golden
- New York
February 23, 2021


A. Hi Kay. I don't know why you call it "Rogers sterling 1255" or if that was just a typo or mind blip. If it is stamped "Sterling" or "925" it is sterling (92.5% silver) and has intrinsic metal value. If it's not so stamped it is almost surely NOT sterling; my understanding is that it is plated and has no value.

Luck & Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
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Q. I'm trying to see what anyone can tell me about the following not sure what to call it.

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Billye Winkler
- Mansfield, Louisiana
April 6, 2021


A. Hi Billye. You can see lots of similar stuff on eBay [adv: item on eBay]. It may be a vase.

It's plated, not sterling, so it has no metal value. And sadly, even if it were in excellent shape, which it's not, it would still be valueless. eBay has lots of similar stuff in good condition with people asking $40, but that doesn't mean they're getting it. Put it in the attic for your grandchildren or great grandchildren because right now nobody anywhere wants it. Sorry :-(

Luck & Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
April 2021




Q. Hi, I purchased a candlestick. On the base of the candlestick it has written
"F B Rogers Silver Co sterling 156" it states that it's sterling, it also has the crown with 1883. My question is this...
Does the '156' indicate the year it was manufactured? Where can I find this information out?

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Andrew stout
- Shingle Springs California
December 4, 2021


A. Hi Andrew. 156 is surely just a pattern number not a date of manufacture, and I doubt that you'll be able to determine during which years pattern #156 was used, but this page lists a half-dozen books on the subject; you might see if your library has any of them.

F B Rogers made very little sterling compared to silverplate, but it says what it says so it should have silver value.

Luck & Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
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A. Greetings Mr Stout,
Your candlestick IS .925 silver.
Unless someone added the word sterling,
Unfortunately, it is likely a 'weighted' item, meaning it's actually just a thin jacket of Silver molded over a plaster/cement form.
Try pushing a blunt object into the metal inside the candle hole or on the base,
You'll easily put a small dent into a weighted item, which won't hurt it's fairly insignificant value.

Willard Robinson
- Milton NH
May 17, 2023




Q. I found a silver plated copper ring metal detecting. The only letters I can read are a FB, and it might be hard to tell in the picture, but I think the B is upside down when the F is right side up and vice versa. In any case, I'm trying to identify as much as I can about this ring for the landowner. Any thoughts would be helpful.

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Martin Monson
- Louisville, Kentucky
January 14, 2022




Q. My husband found a tea set in a storage unit. I was wondering if it is worth anything or not. It is a 5 piece set, on the bottom of them is has Georgetown by F.B. Roger. It is a coffee pot, tea pot, cream and sugar set and a tray. Was it a good find?

Polly Doss
- Addison, Alabama
January 22, 2022


A. Hi Polly. Except in the quite rare instance that it's marked "Sterling", it has no merchantability. One such set is listed on eBay [adv: item on eBay] for $75, but that doesn't mean it will sell for that, if at all. If you want it for yourself it was a good find, but not if you're looking to sell it. For several decades such stuff was a very popular wedding gift, but times changed and it went out of style ... so there is far more of it sitting in boxes in attics, basements, and storage units than anyone wants :-)

Luck & Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
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Q. I also have a tea pot with just the F B Rodgers name, no logos, and a sticker with "insp. by 24" and I have no idea what it means. I don't care how much it's worth I just want to know what it means and why it's such a bare bones name logo.

Elisia j allen
Just a person - North Carolina
May 29, 2022


A. Hi Elisia. The inspection sticker tells you that it's probably from a time when inspection stickers were popular, probably the 1960s thru 80s if my memory serves me. If you were trying to find the history of a Tiffany or Rolex item, there are probably good books and technical articles; but silverplate generally isn't worth anything, so people haven't devoted themselves to studying its history in the same way; and the silverplate companies merged, separated, failed, re-emerged, licensed their logo meatballs to third parties, tried manufacturing in different countries, added and removed logos, and so on, so frequently that asking the provenance of an item based on differences in the markings is probably possible but necessitates a lot more personal research effort than most people are interested in undertaking.

We've posted your question and are hoping that someone will help, but don't count on it :-(

Luck & Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




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