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What is CRCA steel?
Q. What is the meaning of Hi in 6 hi mill?
Saurabh Basarkar- India
March 2, 2012
Q. WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE STRENGTH OF THE CRCA PIPES? PLEASE REPLY SOON I NEED IT URGENTLY FOR MY PROJECT WORK
HARISH PAISTUDENT - HUBLI, KARNATAKA, India
March 12, 2012
A. Hi, Harish.
This is information you must get from a steel handbook; you must never ever rely on the internet rumor mill for engineering work!
But it is unusual to be highly concerned about the "ultimate strength" of steel; the "yield strength" is the significant number for, say, 99.9% of all applications because once you reach the yield point, the structure acquires a permanent distortion that greatly limits its usefulness. You might want to know the ultimate strength if you were designing a rupture disk, I suppose. Good luck.
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March 12, 2012
Q. What is the difference between CRCA and Skinpass sheet?
How can we identify whether the sheet is CRCA or Skinpass?
switchgear - Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
March 14, 2012
Q. What is the "couping value" in terms of CRCA sheet and how can we perform it?
Chetan Gupta- Jaipur, India
March 24, 2012
Q. WHY CRCA STEEL IS BETTER THAN MILD STEEL OR WHAT IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CRCA STEEL AND MILD STEEL
JANGAM KIRTIKUMAR- Pune, Maharashtra, India
April 23, 2012
Q. What is HRPO; is it readily available in market?
GK Nagaraj- Bangalore,Karanataka, India
May 14, 2012
A. Hi, GK. That is an acronym that I hadn't seen used before on this page, but it means "Hot rolled, pickled & oiled". Yes, it should be readily available.
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May 14, 2012
Q. Dear Sir,
What is the post effect on Hot rolled ms Sheet and CRCA Sheet after powder coating.
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- Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India
June 7, 2012
A. Hi Biswanath.
Sorry, I don't know what you mean by "post effect" in this context; please re-phrase. Readers want to hear your situation, not a stultifying string of flash-card questions :-)
So please: Who are you? What are you trying to make? What has motivated you to ask this question? Thanks.
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June 7, 2012
Q. I am just wondering whether CRCA can be replaced by the most readily available Cast Iron for industrial applications?
If no, then why so ?
- Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
July 12, 2012
A. Hi Shyam. Certainly not. Steel has far superior properties to cast iron for many engineering purposes, including ductility rather than brittleness.
Why would you happen to just wonder about this? :-)
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July 13, 2012
Q. Respected Sir
I am new to the job. I need to collect data on the various kind of raw material used in our plant. I came across many different material to name like CR, CRCA, GA, HR, ERW, SS-400 and many more. On searching internet I came across your website. My question is what are the unique features of each and every material. If possible please suggest some handbook available at internet. I know the question is abstract but I require some base to get accustomed to different material and then be specific.
Ankit
Automobile - Gurgaon, Haryana, India
August 20, 2012
Hi Ankit. The ASM Metals Handbook is a great source for every question about the properties of metals, but it's a 20+ volume set costing several thousand dollars. Since your interest seems restricted to alloy and carbon steels, their specialty handbook would probably be ideal.
Your boss may appreciate your sound advice that the company shouldn't try to get by without a steel handbook ... or not :-)
Good luck.
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Ted Mooney, P.E.
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September 24, 2012
Q. Relative permeability of CRCA steel
Dear specialists
I have a rather specific question in connection with properties of CRCA mild steel. For penetrability calculation of this steel for magnetic field I'm searching for relative permeability numbers. I'm far away from mechanical engineering and will be thankful for the information and/or sources.
Thanks in advance
railway transportation - Berlin Germany
September 25, 2012
Q. What is the difference between CRCA and CACA sheet metal? Which one is preferred for elevator cabin, control panel?
Deepak Kumar- Shaktinagar, Dist Sonebhadra, Uttar Pradesh, India
January 19, 2013
A. Hi cousin Deepak. Where did you find this term "CACA", and why might want to build elevator cabins and control panels out of it?
I've never heard the term and feel that we're probably wasting time based on an accidentally introduced typo. Stop the madness! Please tell us where you saw this term and why it interests you :-)
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January 22, 2013
Q. Please tell me the thickness range of CRCA and HRCA
Vipan Sharma- Noida, UP, and India
April 6, 2013
A. Hi Vipan. I'm sure it's well under 1/16 of an inches to several inches. But what width will you need? That enters into it because the thin gauges will be available in sheets 12 foot wide or more whereas the thicker ones won't be (steel warehouses obviously don't want to stock huge rarely sold single plates of steel that weigh hundreds of tons). Coils are only available to a limited thickness because it's not practical to roll and unroll a 2" thick plate.
Please tell the readers what you think you need . . . please describe your situation. Regards,
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April 8, 2013
Q. Hi all,
I am Value engineer working on value improvements. Recently I came across an issue that one of our components which is made of CRCA coated with Olive drab is getting rusted.
I heard that GI would be a best alternative for this to avoid rusting. But when I tested for corrosion, the rusting starts from the cut edges.
Just need to understand whether GI would be the best choice to avoid rusting. And if so how to avoid rusting at cutting edges.
Note: My component is placed in high humidity condition.
- Chennai, India
April 18, 2013
A. Hi Gopalsamy. I don't understand what you mean by "CRCA coated with olive drab". Olive drab what? You can't coat plain steel with olive drab chromate, only zinc coated steel can be chromate conversion coated ... so I'm not understanding the difference between what you were using vs. what you are experimenting with.
Zinc coatings do offer cathodic protection to steel, so they should minimize corrosion at cut edges. But bare steel should not be exposed to the elements. Further, galvanizing is not nearly as protective in high humidity application as in low. You may need to turn or roll the cut edges, paint the whole unit, or switch from pre-coated to galvanizing after fabrication. Best of luck!
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April 18, 2013
Q. Dear Sir
I am into designing electrical switch gears for which I need some description about the electrical properties of CRCA CRNGO HRCA & SS and the effect magnetic field have on them.
Also it would be helpful if the effect of mechanical motion have on them?
- Delhi, India
June 11, 2013
Q. May I know the difference between CRCA & Aluminium Sheets, i.e., Pro & Cons?
Kamlesh Pagariya- Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India
June 17, 2013
A. Hi Kamlesh. You know what CRCA (steel) is and you know what aluminum is, and that they have very different properties. Steel is heavier but cheaper and stronger so that automobiles are built of steel, but airplanes from aluminum. You know that aluminum is "cleaner" and that cooking grates are built from steel, but the cooking foil to line them from aluminum. That aluminum expands more, so machine tools are made from steel although venetian blinds from aluminum. With hundreds of thousands of different products in the world, each with their own requirements, we can't give you the salient pros and cons for a million different situations. But please tell us what application you have in mind, and maybe we can work together towards an answerable question. Thanks.
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June 17, 2013
Q. I WANT TO KNOW THAT FOR MAKING BOXES AND THEN POWDER COATING, WHICH MATERIAL IS BETTER -- CRCA SHEET OR M S SHEET. ANSWER AS PER DURABILITY.
THANKS.
D K C.
TRADER - DELHI, India
September 24, 2013
A. Hi DK. CRCA is a slightly more exacting specification for a M S sheet, so we would need a more exacting specification for the alternate M S sheet before we could answer -- because there might be the same thing. But I think that most any fabricated box would benefit from the uniformity of cold finishing rather than hot rolling, and that every trace of heat scale must be removed before pretreatment and powder coating anyway.
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September 27, 2013
Q. Would like to know about ALSI sheet. Is it more suitable for front panels in cars and trucks. What special properties can be obtained from this, as comparable to CRCA?
Murthy MurthyAutomobile company - Rajkot, Gujarat, India
October 8, 2013
A. Hi Murthy. Please start by telling us what ALSI sheet is. I am unfamiliar with that acronym, and we'll all be on different wavelengths unless you tell us what it is. Where did you hear of it, and what did you hear about it? Thanks.
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October 9, 2013
Q. Can I form roller shutter door in CRCA metal if I am right?
Rajesh Kesavan- Salem, Tamilnadu, India
February 15, 2014
A. Hi Rajesh. I can't see anything right off hand that says CRCA would be wrong for a "shutter door" -- although I'm not sure what you mean by that term. More like a wind shutter on a house than the shutter on a camera, I assume?
Picking the ideal material of construction can be a major engineering undertaking involving inquiries into what manufacturing processes are required to fabricate the item, as well as its required functionality and the environment it will be in.
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February 2014
Does CRCA imply carbon steel, or can it also be stainless?
Q. CRCA, is it available in S.S. and C.S., OR it specifically means carbon steel and not stainless steel?
This is to educate myself and then my vendors / suppliers.
Mech. Engineer - Mumbai, India
February 27, 2014
A. Hi Bakshi. As was said in the first answer on the page, and again later, CRCA is usually understood to mean "cold rolled close annealed" in this context. TO ME PERSONALLY, CRCA IMPLIES CARBON STEEL.
But it is only an acronym, a handy abbreviation, a piece of slang -- it's NOT a specification, and we can't demand that no one ever use words to mean other that what you wish it to mean :-)
Some other top meanings of CRCA are "Canadian Roofing Contractors Association" and "Chicago Roofing Contractors Association" -- surely, roofing contractors in both Canada and Chicago wish people wouldn't use the acronym to refer to the other association -- but they can't stop them. And is someone wants to talk about CRCA stainless steel, I don't see how you and I can stop them :-)
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February 2014
Q. Dear Sir,
Can you tell me the good web link where I can get the good knowledge about the steel products, like as CRCA, HRPO, GALVANIZED, and COLOR COATED Products?
And I read all the answer given on this page; really it's helpful for us so please give me best reply and suggestion for my question also?
- Chennai, India
May 12, 2014
A. Hi Shashank! People who seek answers to highly specific questions get good help from this public forum. If you have a specific question please pose it.
But when you want an introduction to whole broad technologies, the worst book from your library will be vastly better than the best website :-)
Just as students go to 1st grade classes, then 2nd grade, then 3rd grade; carefully authored books follow this gradual progression -- but it takes thousands of hours to prepare such subjects in proper tutorial fashion, with first things first and gradually building on them. On the internet you oscillate between being confronted with terms & concepts that you're not ready for alternating with reading the same information over & over & over again a stultifying number of times. Follow the wiki suggestions if you must though.
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May 2014
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