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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
- Pine Beach, NJ
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How can I coat for sublimation printing on a low budget




RFQ: I'm looking for a supplier of the coating to make items sublimitable. I intend to coat these items myself here in the Philippines to lower the costs since our exchange rate is around 50 - 52 Pesos to a US Dollar.

If I don't do this, sublimation will not be acceptable here due to the cost. And I wouldn't want that to happen because I see enormous potential on sublimation.

Thanks!

Jimmy Tiu
- Philippines
2002

Ed. note: Sorry, this RFQ is old & outdated, so contact info is no longer available. However, if you feel that something technical should be said in reply, please post it; no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?)



RFQ: I am looking for a coating that can be applied to ceramic mugs as a preparation for ink jet sublimation.

Rudy Barcenas
Mundo Bonito - Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico
2002

Ed. note: Sorry, this RFQ is old & outdated, so contact info is no longer available. However, if you feel that something technical should be said in reply, please post it; no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?)



RFQ: I'm looking for sublimation coating polymer to apply on ceramic mugs and glass as a preparation for sublimation.

Thank you.

Preda Calin
- Baia Mare, Maramures, Romania
2002

Ed. note: Sorry, this RFQ is old & outdated, so contact info is no longer available. However, if you feel that something technical should be said in reply, please post it; no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?)



RFQ: I too am also searching for a supplier of the coating to make items sublimiteable and find enormous potential market on sublimation.

So if you have found one now please do share with me.

Siegfred

Siegfred Ubalde
- Cagayan de Oro City, Philippines
2003

Ed. note: Sorry, this RFQ is old & outdated, so contact info is no longer available. However, if you feel that something technical should be said in reply, please post it; no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?)





Q. I would like to coat mugs for sublimation printing. I read one thread advising to use 2-part polyester resin. I work in a small environment as well as budget for high end spray guns and booths. What is the best way of attaining a clear finish on the mugs. And do the resins come in aerosol spray cans. Please advise.

Thanks,

Geefamo
- Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
2003


RFQ: Did anyone find the material for sublimation? I could really use the help here.

Ronald Dozier
- Jacksonville Florida
2004

awd

Ed. note: Sorry, this RFQ is old & outdated, so contact info is no longer available. However, if you feel that something technical should be said in reply, please post it; no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?)




A. Hi Ronald. there are numerous suppliers of sublimateable coatings if you google. There is also brief coverage of this topic in a recent edition of Products Finishing magazine at:
www.pfonline.com/articles/dye-sublimation-coating(2)

To summarize, in case that article becomes a broken link, it recommends using a 2-component polyester of wax-free composition. Single component coatings (unless specially designed for sublimation) are unlikely to work as well because they may contain drying oils which can interfere with the process. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




Q. Hello! I'm looking for polyester that can coat the sublimation mugs and how can I spray it?
Best regards
max

Maximiliano Capuzzi
sublimation - Porlamar, Venezuela
2006




A. Hi Maximiliano and folks. This specific material is available on eBay [affil link], and probably other sites. But please search this site for many other threads of ongoing discussions about materials that you can buy or make that will accept sublimation coatings. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




Q. We are a small unit that does heat transfers on ceramic mugs, for corporate gifting.
We are experimenting with a glass based coating (glass stoving) which is sprayed as an overcoating on the mug after the decal has been transferred. The mug is then heated in an oven at 150 °C. The results are satisfactory, but need to be improved. The glass coating can be scratched out with a little effort. The coating does not adhere very well or permanently to the ceramic mug. Hence we find the coating is not suitable for sublimation transfers.

Could you please suggest an alternative coating and temperature for firing.

Our unit is located in India.

Your valued suggestion will be sincerely appreciated.

Warm Regards,

Noel Vaz
Proprietor - Thane, Maharashtra, India
2007




Q. Hi, My dad is looking for polymer coating for ceramic cups or mugs, for sublimation printing. Also do you have any information on polymer coating, such as is it toxic?, and other general information, I would really appreciate any help.

Mandy Fell
student - Lillian, Alabama
2007



wikipedia
Polymer

A. Hi Mandy. The word polymer alone doesn't means much, as it covers plastics, proteins, and other things. But the particular polymers in question are polyesters similar to car paints. They are not toxic, but they probably are not food-safe.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey


Rave hair spray

on eBay or

Amazon

(affil links)

A. Hey, don't go out and buy the expensive sublimation coatings. I've been doing months worth of research. You really aren't going to believe this but go purchase Rave 4X hairspray .

..(yeah, I'm serious). I've successfully used it on porcelain tiles, wood and most recently a 100% cotton T-shirt. When I used the T-shirt I washed it three times in cold water (didn't use hot) and dried it. NO COLOR FADE. The reason I did this research is because it takes me a week to get the coating in and as a business just starting out I couldn't afford to have a lot of it in stock.

Angela Muir
- Leeds, Alabama USA
June 13, 2011


Angela: Are you sure these will work? How about the durability on ceramics?

Mamoru Chiba
- Philippines
October 21, 2011


Sublimation Coating Kit for Hard Surfaces

on eBay or

Amazon

(affil links)
Sublimation Coating for Fabric

on eBay or

Amazon

(affil links)

Hi Mamoru. There's a saying in the USA: "mileage may vary", meaning we can't demand that Angela guarantee that what she has enjoyed success with will work to your expectations :-)
Coating types should ideally be optimized for the kind of object you're putting them on; t-shirts, for example, need soft and absorbable treatments; they don't use the same glossy hard coatings as mugs. And that idea holds whether you wish to sublimate into the coating or not. Hair spray might be fine to be absorbed by a cotton t-shirt (I'll take Angela's word), and it may have met her needs for her porcelain tiles, but hair spray doesn't seem to me to be the ideal coating for either ceramic tiles or a mug.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




Multiple threads merged: please forgive chronology errors :-)



RFQ: I'm looking for sublimation coating polymer to apply on ceramic mugs and glass as a preparation for sublimation.

Thank you.

Muhammed Demssie
asfaw - Jeddah, Al Balad, Saudi Arabia
2004

Ed. note: Sorry, this RFQ is old & outdated, so contact info is no longer available. However, if you feel that something technical should be said in reply, please post it; no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?)





Q. Could anyone please help or advise on how to apply the relevant coating on ceramic mugs before it is used for sublimation printing?

Dugbarnor Doku
Printland - Accra, Ghana
2005



Q. Could someone please help me with how to coat mugs and other sublimatable products for printing with sublimation? The price for shipping these products is horrible !

Naledi Motswasele
Those boys productions (pty) ltd - Gaborone, Botswana
2005


Hi Niledi. I don't know too much about this subject, but I see many sites that sell everything from the sublimatable inkjet cartridges, to the printing papers, to the coating materials, to various fixtures and machines for the transfer of the images. While it is certainly very expensive to ship mugs, I don't see why the shipping cost for a drum of the coating material would be prohibitive.
Say hello to Mma Ramotswe and Mma Makutsi for me -- two of my No. 1 Ladies.
Good luck.

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




Q. Hello, I am new to the sublimation business and I own only one mug press. So far, I am very impressed with the results and I would like it to be part of my small business. I have a small scale desktop printing business and my target market is not Class A. If I do offer the sublimation mugs using coated mugs imported from other countries, I find that the price seem so high. I would like to search for ways on how to coat ceramic mugs for sublimation. Please help. Is it easy? I heard that you can use polyurethane . I've tried it, the graphic did transfer to the mug but it didn't seem to have that glossy coating that the coated mugs have. please help.

Hazel Dy-Henry
hazelson digital - Quezon City, Philippines
2005


A. Hi Hazel, and folks. Thread 12938 suggests several ideas including hair spray; and thread 46505 claims that regular automotive polyester clear coats will accept sublimation well. Please let us know what you learn either way.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
December 23, 2012




Some success and some errors in sublimation coating

Q. Hi Ted,
Thanks for doing such a noble job of helping people by your website. I am also in trade of heat sublimation printing on mugs and plates, but in our country most of the blank products are imported from China so they are common; everyone has the same products. I want to develop new products and designs but problem is the same: The COATING, HOW TO COAT THE PRODUCTS, WHAT ARE THE CHEMICALS? I tried above said formula of clear coat with hardener but there is problem after printing print paper sticks to the products. Then I have to wet the paper to remove from product. On some surfaces it leaves the print and on metals it completely washed away. Does anybody know the solution or correct method and ratio of chemicals.

dinesh jain
product developer and businessman - new delhi delhi, India
March 28, 2014


A. Hi Dinesh. Thanks for the kind words, but running this site is just how I earn my living.

It may seem slightly magical that polyester clearcoats can absorb sublimatable ink, but you must not let this steal your focus from the principal issue that they are paints/coatings and that what you are trying to do is to paint/coat a substrate. When you say it washes away from metals, I am not sure if you are talking about the coating or just the image. If the coating is washing away I can only say that you must study painting as much as sublimation science. Paints only wash away if the substrate is dirty, or has not been properly prepared and activated, or if the paint material is wholly inadequate in composition. Try properly pretreating the metal, priming it with a white paint, and THEN applying your 2-component wax-free 100% solids polyester paint for sublimation.

If the paint is sticking properly but the sublimation image washes off, it means it has not been absorbed into the coating. Please read the short Products Finishing article we linked above, and find out if your clear coat has waxes or other ingredients that hamper the absorption. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




How can I start a sublimation coating factory?

Q. I want to start a sublimation coating factory but I do not know how to go about it and the requirements.

kudakwashe vhinyu
student - bindura zimbabwe
March 27, 2015


A. Hi kudakwashe. Apparently one of the downsides of today's electronic technology is that it doesn't make economic sense to spend years writing a good book or DVD anymore, only to have it ripped off :-)

... because it's funny, but I've been looking hard but unsuccessfully for years for a book covering the whole subject of sublimation coating and haven't found even one. I think you'll need to read what's available on the subject in a half-dozen different arts & crafts books and manufacturing technology books because I don't think you'll find a perfect tutorial :-(

But http://www.myenmart.com/Dye_Sublimation_Guide.pdf may be a good start. Good luck.

Luck and Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey


A. The company I work for has experimented with countless materials and substrates doing sublimation. From fiberglass resin to hairsprays and automotive clears. The key is 100% polyester coating. We found by far on most substrates, other than fabric, a special powdercoating clear works every time and a pound of inexpensive powdercoating goes a long way. We sublimate all our faceplates of steel doing this. We put a white base on, either liquid or powder. Liquid tends to yellow but works fine. Then spray the clear and it's ready to sublimate. Results are perfect as long as proper pressure, temp, time are used which vary with material. I hopes this helps. Would be happy to answer any further questions.

Chris cook
- Columbia ,Tennessee, USA
August 25, 2016




Sublimation printing onto rubber

Q. We are trying to print onto a rubber key pad. We have successfully used the sublimation process and printed the keys. They looked ok not stellar but they'll work. The problem is when we came in the next morning the numbers were gone. Yesterday we couldn't get them off and today it's like disappearing ink. I'm assuming that the rubber has adsorbed the ink. What's the best coating to treat the rubber with prior to sublimation?

Thank you for your input.

Billy

Billy Hitt
- Knoxville, Tennessee USA
February 21, 2017




Dye sublimation on powder coated steel

Q. I have powder coated steel components (small, flat 11 gauge hot rolled) and would like to add graphics/images using dye sublimation. I have looked but can't find any powders specifically recommended for this process. I know this type of powder must have a high polyester content but would like to get recommendations for powders that work for this process rather than wasting time and money experimenting until I find the right one.

J.P. Roberts
designer - Atlanta, Georgia U.S.A.
August 21, 2017



Hi J.P., If anyone is willing to give hints about how to formulate such a powder, or what parameters to seek in selecting it, we'd love to print that,; but we don't print brand suggestions (huh? why?)

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




Acronyms:
CMC = Carboxymethylcellulose

Q. How can I make sublimation Powder using CMC at home?

Manish Bhatia
- Faridabad/Haryana, India
August 26, 2020




Q. Chris,
Could you tell me where I can get the powdercoat you are talking about?
I'm wanting to make my own ornament blanks and whatnot.

Christina Blanton
- Richmond, Indiana
October 27, 2020


A. Hi Christina. The "powdercoat" that Chris is speaking of is available from PPG, Tiger Drylac, Interpon, AkzoNobel and many other suppliers who you can find by googling "powder coating powder manufacturers". But I'm not sure if that will actually help you :-(

Chris is talking about a process used in large scale industrial factory coating. It's not a matter simply of buying powder coating powder; you then need sprays guns with electrostatic charge units and a spray booth to apply the powder, then curing ovens to fuse it, and other large equipment. If you are thinking of hobby, craft, or home preparation of parts for sublimation coating, you'll need a technology that can be done at a small scale at home, and that probably limits you to brushable or sprayable liquid paints. Of these (if you don't want to buy coating materials marketed specifically for the purpose) 2-K polyester automotive clear coats are probably the best approach according to previously referenced threads.

Luck & Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




Q. WOW! What a ton of information! I noticed it's been awhile since this thread began and I was curious if anyone found some newer products that could be used for the typical Mom. I've literally been online for about an hour now looking for a straight forward product to spray vs. hand paint onto ceramic, wood, metal and glass. Does anyone have any ideas that are less than the $30 can of spray I found?

Melissa J Sheehy
Grateful homemaker, wife, mother & crafter! - CONCORD
June 22, 2021





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Q. Please give me the formula for making my own sublimation coating mugs -- a homemade recipe.

Kedra Mohammed Yassin
- Addis Ababa. Ethiopia
March 24, 2023


A. Hi Kedra. As noted above, two-component automotive clearcoat can be used for clear-coating mugs (the outside surface only; automotive clearcoat is not considered a food-safe surface). So if you can make your own homemade 2-K automotive clearcoat that should work for sublimation coating of mugs.

You can alternately download the safety data sheets (SDS) for commercial sublimation coatings and see if you can obtain the necessary ingredients to start experimenting with your own mixes. But what is the status of your efforts to date, so that readers know the best starting point to help you? Are you presently successfully coating the mugs but using a proprietary which you find non-affordable? Or are you only sublimating mugs which have already been pre-coated with sublimation coatings by someone else? And has everything been going well with these approaches? Or are you closer to being a beginner?

Because usually it is most practical to take things one step at a time:
1. Sublimating pre-coated mugs first, and producing satisfactory quality sublimated mugs. 2. Moving on to applying high quality proprietary coatings to raw mugs yourself, to get your techniques sufficiently refined to maintain the same quality level as pre-coated mugs.
3. After you are producing quality mugs by applying purchased proprietary coatings, trying to formulate the coatings yourself.

Trying to do step 3 if you haven't done steps 2 and 1 is awfully difficult, because if things are not perfect you won't know whether it's the condition of the mugs, or improper methods and practices, or that you coating formulation isn't right, or what -- but good luck. Thanks. Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey




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