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Black Matte Paint for Space Use
Q. I am looking for the black matte paint used in optical systems, like the telescope, to absorb the light. It is painted on the metal surface. It should be strong enough to survive the high g vibration without losing particles. I heard that this type of paint has been used in the space based optical system. However, I am not sure who is the manufacturer. Any suggestion will be helpful. Thanks !
Wei Su1998
A. I have used a product called Chemglaze, I forget the Manufacturer's name. It comes in white and flat black. If you are looking for a "real" low emissivity coating suitable for space use, try a Martin Marietta coating (similar to anodizing) its called "Martin Black or Martin Marietta Black. We used it for an infrared radiometer used on the EOS AM-1 Spacecraft.
Anthony Ratajczak- Montreal, Quebec
A. The Martin Black process IS anodizing. I have been using it for 8 years. It has very low reflectivity from UV to deep IR. There is another antireflective coating called CAT-A-Lac 463-3-8 from Dexter Aerospace Materials (Illinois). I don't have experience with it.
Carlos M. Ruiz- Dallas Texas
A. The name of the company that manufactures Chemglaze (now called Aeroglaze) is the Lord Corporation. They are based in Erie Pennsylvania.
Patrick Langan1998
A. Detailed specification of black paint CHEMGLAZE Z306 is described in ESA PSS-01-725 Issue 1
Rostislav GrygarCzech Space Research Centre - Brno, Czech Republic
1999
Q: Could you, please, give me the name of the French distributor for the CHEMGLAZE Z 306. Thank you for your answer. Best regards.
Francois GOUTENEGRELESCAR, FRANCE
2000
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A. I believe Lord's Z-line Chemglaze is an aromatic polyurethane used mainly for interior applications. The A-line (i.e. A276) is aliphatic and had a name change from Chemglaze A-xxx to Aeroglaze. It is very good for exterior and space use.
I think it meets the NASA outgassing requirements ( ASTM E595). The white color has good reflectivity and there is a black that is a good absorber.
Q. Also, I would be interested in some more info on Martin Black. Have been unable to locate any.
Paul C. Kochendorfer- Laguna Hills, California
2000
Q. I am interested in spray paints for metal surfaces which have a low reflectivity throughout the visible and near / mid-IR ( from 400nm to 12 microns ).
Does anyway know if Krylon flat black is non-reflective in the near-IR?
Could anyone recommend to me a book or source of data on IR reflectivities of various paints and coatings?
Mark Nelson- White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico
2001
Q. I would like to ask the same question Mark Nelson asked. I need a paint with a very low reflectivity value to use on a mounting platform that will be used to mount atmospheric radiation sensors. Could you please tell me if Krylon ultra-flat black will work or if there is a better product.
Todd SchimelfenigUniversity of Nebraska - Lincoln, Nebraska
2001
A. Re: Flat black paint w/low reflectivity in IR range +
To answer this question:
a. a site for paint/material emissivity is electro-optical.com/bb_rad/emissivity/emissivity.htm ⇩
b. the best paint for Black body as IR sources is: ALEXIT Velvet coating 811-21 (was 3M Nextel) emissivity of .97, thermal conductive 30 deg.C to 150 deg. C, total emissivity -60 deg. C to 150 deg. C.
Douglas Stone- San Diego, California, USA
2001
Ed. update Oct 2024: That link is broken.
A. JFYI,
NEXTEL Suede and NEXTEL Velvet coatings are STILL available, not through 3M though.
The distributor for North America is Mankiewicz Coatings LLC.
They have been selling these products under the ALEXIT brand but have recently acquired the rights on the NEXTEL brand name for North America.
Stefan Guenther- Greenville, South Carolina, USA
2002
A. I am researching many of the same issues posted here in several questions. There are two important papers you may want to consider, especially if your applications are cryogenic: (1) "The selection of infrared blacks for SIRTF" by St. Claire Dinger, SPIE, Vol. 2260, Stray Radiation in Optical Systems III (1994). (2) "Infrared black paints for room and cryogenic temperatures" by Ungar, Mangin, Lutz, Jeandel & Wyncke, SPIE, Vol 1157, IR Technology XV (1989). I spoke with Martin Marietta in FL and was told they are not interested in applying the Martin anodize process for small external projects. Have not checked Lockmart. Lord Co.'s division in Erie PA sells the Aeroglaze products, and there are other companies (do a quick web search) who will apply it for you if you'd rather not buy large quantities. My experience is that companies sell the rights to these products frequently, so it takes a bit of detective work to locate what you need.
Michelle Creech-EakmanCaltech - Pasadena, California
2002
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A. The emissivity of Krylon Ultra Flat Black Paint ⇨
is listed in the web site below as 0.97 at 5 µm. I have recently used a 3-5 µm InSb radiometric thermal imager to measure the emissivity. I sprayed the paint on a copper plate and mounted it on a cold finger of a variable temperature dewar with a calcium fluoride window. I rotated the dewar window so as to not back reflect. I measured an emissivity of 0.89 for the setup. If we exclude the reflection from the window (~0.04 x 2), this would give an emissivity for the black paint of ~0.97 in agreement with the web site.
http://www.infrared-thermography.com/training.htm ⇩
Research Physicist - Bowie, Maryland
2006
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A. I have been experimenting with infrared coatings for NIR, MidIR and FarIR. In general if the temperature of the item coated is 100 °C or less the Krylon ultra flat black ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] gives the best most consistent coating, better than many that are specified higher than .97. It is far easier to apply than most other coatings also. Spectral would be from 1 to 16 microns but at longer wavelengths how the coating is applied makes a difference. At surface temperatures above 100 °C it turns grayish and emissivity drops significantly.
Steven Cook- Tucson, Arizona
June 12, 2008
Seeking Alexit Nextel Velvet Coating 811-21
RFQ: Need to find a company to coat machined parts with the Nextel Velvet Coating 811-21 black coating. Machine parts are made from plate aluminum stock and have selected areas coated.
Charles F [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]Manufacturer - Milpitas, California, U.S.A.
2005
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Q: Dear Sir/Madam
Regarding krylon spray for glassware items, I watch krylon spray in website. I need contact no. with address of dealer of Krylon spray in india.
- Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh India
January 28, 2012
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A. The Hi-Temp paint needs to be cured, and if used in a vacuum system, off gases like crazy. (Tried it)
The Krylon 1602 ⇦ this on
eBay
or
Amazon [affil links]
mentioned above has NASA / CAL TECH reports measuring it's emissivity and it's used for our emissivity based experiments.
Atomic Energy Canada - Chalk River, Ontario, Canada
June 27, 2013
Multiple threads merged: please forgive chronology errors :-)
RFQ: We need high temperature paint in semi glossy black color to be used on tractor mufflers.
Ajay Bhutani- New Delhi, India
2001
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Dear Ajay,
A. You might try Okitsumo, Inc. Their corporate headquarters are in Japan. If you'd like their U.S. phone number, please contact me.
Jake KochG. J. Nikolas &Co.,Inc.
Bellwood, Illinois
2001
A. I think that the best black coating is ZYNOLYTE a paint for Hi-Temp (1200°F°) the original purpose was to paint stoves or similar, but now is used for all manufacturer of black-bodies, for NASA, Sandia Labs, etc. The coefficient is 0,99 and works perfectly in IR, Distributor is Athena Brands Inc Gardnerville Nevada
E. Diez Valero- Madrid, SPAIN
2004
Q. I am looking for an infrared absorbing paint (absorption peak should be in the 810nm region) for coating of wood.
Can anyone advise ?
Carole HelfterPhD student - Heriot-Watt University - Edinburgh, UK
2005
A. This page lists 3M optical black as having an Emissivity of 1.00... I assume since its made by 3m, it should be commercially available from them somewhere, but I have yet to find a source. If anyone can find a source for this paint...
www.infrared-thermography.com/training.htm ⇩
"Paint: 3M, black velvet coating 9560 series optical black"
Apparently coatings used in optics, telescopes, laser devices, etc... are the best bet to look for which have been developed for extremely good absorption across a wide spectrum (I assume, precise data on any particular paint would be far preferable as to how it reacted across a large area of the spectrum).
- Augusta, Georgia
2006
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A. The web site below gives the reflectance spectra of a number of commercially available paints. The emissivity is just 1 minus the reflectance.
http://speclib.jpl.nasa.gov/scripts/lib/asp/ManmadeResp.asp ⇩
Physicist - Bowie, Maryland
2006
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A. Data on Martin Black and several other black surfaces are given in this author's paper: "Review of black surfaces for space-borne infrared systems" Review of Scientific Instruments, vol 70, no 5 p2193.
3M black hemi-directional, spectral reflectance 2-9 microns is 0.04; 9-20 microns its 0.06.
MIT Lincoln Laboratory - Newton, Massachusetts
2007
Q. I am student of M tech from surface coating technology,UICT, Matnga, Mumbai, India .I am doing project on IR Reflective Coatings.
Can you refer me to information related IR Reflective Coatings?
student - India
2007
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Q. Can anyone suggest a black paint which has very high absorption at 1500-1600nm range and can use at high temperature up to 400 °C. any suggestion will be highly appreciated
Thanks,
Researcher - Ireland
October 15, 2008
A. Depending on the Form, fit, function and wave length of the part that has to absorb IR, the processes are various and many. Electrolysis, painting and / or growth. Over the past 15 years I have tested many so with a little more information I might be able to point you in the right direction.
Keith Pieske- Stockholm, Sweden
August 27, 2009
Search for Better UV Absorbing Black Paint
I need some information on what kind of black paint have better performance on absorbing 365 nm UV light.
Thanks,
David H [last name deleted for privacy by Editor]- Madison, Wisconsin
RFQ: For an experiment, I am looking for an optical black paint which has a high absorption from UV to IR. I have found several products: Martin Black Velvet, Aeroglaze Z306. Since I am out of north America, could anyone tell where and how to buy these products?
Weidesigner - chengdu, sichuan, china
March 24, 2011
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A. Please also consider the following absorber coatings used for space applications from Alion Science and Technology:
MH2200
MH21:6N/LO
- Chicago, Illinois
July 15, 2011
A. You can try Fractal Black or Black Metal Velvet by Acktar Ltd.
- Israel
October 19, 2011
Q. Hello everyone, I'm searching a black paint with an emissivity close to 1. Target is to experiment building of a black body source.
Since 3M black velvet coating 9560 series optical black seems to be NLA, I'm searching for something else.
E. Diez on a previous message told that ZYNOLYTE Hi-Temp paint is used by most IR source manufacturers, and have an emissivity of 0.99
Can someone confirm that this paint can be intended for this use?
Thanks!
- Paris, Paris, France
June 4, 2013
A. This site should help with choosing an paint based on it's emissivity value.
masterweb.jpl.nasa.gov/reference/paints.htm ⇩
- Chalk River, Ontario, Canada
June 27, 2013
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High Temperature High Emissivity Coating for Brass
Q. I am looking for a high-emissivity coating for a brass thermal target. The target is about 6" in diameter and 1" thick. Emissivity must be equal to or better than .6 (what is achieved with the current process). The target will be temperature cycled up to 500 degrees C (932F). The target will be used outdoors, so the coating should be weather resistant. We are prototyping 1-2 pcs right now but will be making about 50 of these for "production." Any suggestions?
The current process is to coat in a slurry of carbon black and cutting oil. I'm hoping to find something a little cleaner. We tried black zinc on a sandblasted surface, but the plating blistered at 430 °C. We're looking at black oxide and possibly antiquing the brass to a black-ish finish. I'm trying to steer clear of paint, but will use it if it's the only thing that will work.
Thanks in advance.
engineer - Austin, Texas, USA
October 15, 2013
Q. I have a laser energy meter. The covering paint on the laser head (detector) has been damaged. Give me the appropriate coatings or paint for detector protection.
M Shakeel- Khairpur Sindh Pakistan
December 12, 2013
Q. Hello,
We used to use Aeroglaze Z302, but it isn't available anymore, aside from 50 Gallon minimum orders, while we need about 1 liter.
Does anyone happen to know of any possible substitutes for Aeroglaze Z302?
The important specifications are high absorptivity, glossy reflection, and space approval.
Thanks in advance,
Nathan
- Davos, Switzerland
October 16, 2014
A. Consider using a flat black projector border paint like the one from digital image; sounds like exactly what you're looking for.
Matt Blankenship- Bonita Springs, Florida USA
February 26, 2015
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