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citric acid passivation of stainless steel




1997

Q. I am Senior Project Engineer for a generic pharmaceutical company on Long Island, NY. We currently do most of our passivation in house with a Nitric Acid bath. This is a safety concern as well as creating difficulties in neutralizing the strong acid after use.

I have noticed that the industry seems to be going more and more towards passivation via citric acid solutions. My management is concerned over this change. I am researching toxicity vs. nitric acid as well as functionality (does the citric acid get the job done). Any input you could provide, or if you could point me in a direction of where I could find the technical back up data to support such a change would be extremely appreciated.

Thanking you in advance.

Paul Diolosa


1997

Q. I sent an inquiry to the Q&A page in one of the trade publications a year or two ago about this same issue (use of alternate passivation techniques) but never got a response. I would happily go over to a non-chromated passivation solution if I thought the people who require QQ-P-35C (canceled) [link is to free spec at Defense Logistics Agency, dla.mil] Type II would let me. Anyone else have input? Our application is 303SS.

bill vins
Bill Vins
microwave & cable assemblies - Mesa (what a place-a), Arizona


A. It has been stated repeatedly in the literature, so it's probably true, that electropolishing is a superior passivation technique to passivation itself. It's more expensive, and may not be practical for all ware, but it would eliminate the hex chrome issue.

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
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1997



1997

thumbs up sign Ted,

Since the company I work for does bulk passivating of small 303 stainless connector subcomponents (as well as other finishing processes like gold plating) I think the tradeoff to losing the hex chrome would not be worth it (huge rectifiers, very concentrated rinses, etc.). It is probably OK on bigger parts that people do on racks, but basketed stuff like ours would be a nightmare.

bill vins
Bill Vins
microwave & cable assemblies - Mesa (what a place-a), Arizona


A. The QQ-P-35C is in the process of being replaced, and the replacement will allow citric acid Passivation. Before you jump into this process consider the effect of the Citric on your waste treatment facility. citric acid is a chelator in the purist sense and should not be added to a waste stream containing metals you wish to remove. There are distributors for a citric acid Passivation process popping up all over. Good luck, mike.

Mike McDonald
- Jefferson, Wisconsin
1997


A. I am just going to have to visit www.finishing.com/letters/ on a regular frequency. I keep seeing these interesting discussion in MF journal and am probably too late to contribute on a meaningful basis.

In years past, citric acid , among other complexants, has been used in the nuclear industry to decontaminate (chemically clean) piping, vessels, etc. The procedure for stainless is to go in with nitric acid to oxidize the chromium and then strip out the Fe/Ni with the citric acid . Normally it was recognized that after the procedure, the surface would be very reactive and susceptible to recontamination if not allowed to "heal." It was not used on carbon steel just because too much would be needed.

Thus the use of citric acid to "passivate" is interesting. Is something else added, hydrogen peroxide or some such? To passivate a surface, you need to raise the electrochemical potential up to the passive region. I find it difficult to believe that citric alone will do it.

As Ted pointed out, electropolishing gives you the best surface. But if you use phosphoric acid, I suspect there is residual trace of phosphate. As a point of interest, if you ever get a chance, look at new stainless and electropolished stainless under a scanning electron microscope. A world of difference.

James R Divine, PhD, PE
West Richland, Washington
1998


A. I have to concur with Dr Divine. citric acid on its own is not an oxidising agent. Passivation tests after citric acid "passivation" will prove positive but I would prefer to believe that the this is because this acid has played its role as a chelating solution and thus the stainless steel has effectively auto passivated.

Joel Levinsohn
Joel Levinsohn
- Sydney, Australia
1998



1999

A. I also agree with Dr Devine and Joel Levinsohn.

Whilst citric acid acts as a chelating agent to bind free iron contaminants, the subsequent (auto) passivation process with oxygen is the oxidising reaction which generates a passive film.

Use of nitric acid provides meaningful passivation, especially in high corrosion environments where auto passivation is interfered with by contaminants such as iron oxides, iron chlorides, chlorides, bromides, etc.

Metalurgical tests performed for us on stainless steel (304 and 316 grades) also indicate that auto-passivation in a clean room laboratory environment can take 1 to 2 days after grinding, and 6 to 24 hours following pickling (nitric acid/hydrofluoric acid).

Whilst the auto-passivation process commences immediately following chromium depletion, it does take time to regenerate a meaningful corrosion resistant passive film in fabrication environments and in installations subject to corrosion.

Whilst I agree citric acid cleaning can be useful following fabrication due to its ability to bind (chelate) free iron contamination, I still lean towards use of a nitric acid solution or nitric acid gel to chemically oxidize a chrome oxide passive film.

I hope I don't upset the citric acid devotees, however, it is only one of a number of weapons in the armoury and should not be seen as a means to an end. Yours in passivation,

John Hill
- NSW, AUSTRALIA



Q. I have been searching for information which describes what sodium dichromate specifically does in the QQ-P-35C type II solution. I have been told that it "retards" the etching process, however, I have not been able to confirm this. If you know or can help me find this information I would very much appreciate your help.

Larry Mager
- Origin Medsystems
1998


A. I believe that the function of dichromate in the passivation solutions is as an oxidizer. The oxidation acceleration due to the dichromate produces a more stable oxide passive layer more quickly and with less metal dissolution than a plain nitric acid solution.

larry hanke
Larry Hanke
Minneapolis, Minnesota
1998



1998

Q. Look, I need general information about passivation.
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Q. I am somewhat new to the realm of passivation and still learning. One of our companies difficult spots to get passivated is melt thru on the back side of 304, while TIG welding, where the gas shield is not present. Does any one have any advice? We also are just looking into citric acid and would this make the problem worse?

Mark Bandixen
- Mt. Carroll, Illinois, USA
1999



Q. While placing a 416 Stainless Steel part in a nitric passivation bath an extraordinarily active reaction occurred which ate approximately .001" off a diameter of a Swiss screw fabricated part. We fabricate an overwhelming majority of brass parts at our facility, and I was curious if brass contamination in the bath from the parts would cause a reaction like this. Thanks in advance for any help in troubleshooting this problem.

Mark Imbimbo
- Boonton, New Jersey
2000



2000

A. I would doubt it, Mark. See our FAQs on SST Passivation

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Multiple threads merged: please forgive chronology errors :-)



Q. I am currently working on a project in the Semiconductor industry dealing with passivation/electropolishing.

The part is a small, solid machined piece of 316L Stainless Steel, and it must pass very rigid surface chemistry requirements. We have found that citric passivation of the part seems to etch grain boundaries, which is not allowed. However, we did not find this behavior during a standard electropolishing process.

Has anyone else seen this? Is this a standard occurrence for citric passivation? Or perhaps something was done wrong during machining or passivation?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Kevin Bennett
- Santa Clara, California, US
2002


A. Kevin:

Sounds like something is wrong with your citric acid solution, whatever it is. We have run extensive studies and not found this at all with our customers in the semiconductor industry. In fact, this is one of the advantages that we have found over nitric acid, which definitely can etch the grain boundaries.

Electropolishing "etches" away the entire surface of the part, of course. The energy is concentrated on the high points on the surface mostly.

I am very interested in this- to find out what is happening.

lee kremer
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Lee Kremer
Stellar Solutions, Inc.
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McHenry, Illinois
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2002



Q. This is Kevin again. Actually we have discovered that the annealing process is what is etching grain boundaries into the stainless steel. Is there anyway to anneal and avoid the etched grain boundaries? Or perhaps there is another method to removing the etched grain boundaries that is cheaper and easier than electropolishing. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Kevin Bennett [returning]
- Santa Clara, California
2002


A. This has us confused. Normally saying that you etched grain boundaries means you used acid to make the surface grain boundaries visible for optical microscopy. Only one other similar thing I can think of, when you solidify an alloy through a eutectic region on the phase diagram, the alpha phase solidifies first forming the grains, and when the eutectic temperature is reached the remaining liquid solidifies as an alpha+beta phase solid in between the alpha grains. Depending on the annealing temperature, it would be possible to remelt that alpha+beta phase. It all depends on the procedure used and what the phase diagram for the 316SS used looks like.

lee kremer
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Lee Kremer
Stellar Solutions, Inc.
supporting advertiser
McHenry, Illinois
stellar solutions banner
2002



2002

A. Kevin:

To help shed some light on this could you give us the SS grade, such as 316, 316L, 316LS, etc.. and maybe list the elemental analysis as shown on the material certs? In particular, the Carbon and the Sulfur conc's, and roll/annealed or cast stock? And also your process cycle? Depending on temperature cycling, Carbon can sometimes introduce these effects, as can Sulfur. Since you indicate now that the effect becomes visible after anneal, my question is: are you annealing in some unusual atmosphere? or could it just be a bad rinse & dry cycle prior to anneal? My most recent problem with EP of 316L for SEMI was pitting on surfaces normal to the grain axis of orientation while the other surfaces polished perfectly.

Dave Kinghorn
Dave Kinghorn
Chemical Engineer
SUNNYvale, California




2002

A. Lee, it's quite reasonable for the annealing to cause grain boundary relief: surface diffusion along grain boundaries occurs at different speeds than along the rest of the surface, so the material essentially "balls up". The grains try to become more spherical, and atoms move out of the boundaries onto the rest of the grain. Yeah, I'm waving my hands here, and giving a simplistic explanation: but it happens, and can be explained far more rigorously. You'll never notice it until you anneal a flat, polished surface. Is that what you started with, Kevin?

Can you try annealing at a lower temperature?

lee gearhart
Lee Gearhart
metallurgist - E. Aurora, New York



2002

A. If by "anneal" you mean heat then slow-cool (as applied to low alloy steels) then you're creating your own problems by generating grain boundary decoration by carbides and/or nitrides and/or sigma phase.

In the context of austenitic stainless steels --- which is what you're about --- "anneal" means heat then FAST-cool. Correctly, the process is called "solution-treat" or at worst "solution-anneal". Any slow-cooling operation with these materials creates problems. And any solution temperature less that 1050 °C (about 1900 °F) will also create problems. Either don't heat the stuff at all, or heat it to at least that temperature and fast-cool it.

Bill Reynolds
Bill Reynolds [deceased]
consultant metallurgist - Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
We sadly relate the news that Bill passed away on Jan. 29, 2010.





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