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Paint sludge recycle, re-use or disposal



Q. Hello

From my spray booth results paint sludge that have problem on disposal cost. I look for treatment to recycle that sludge. And I think this is a good topic for discussion!

Can anyone give me information about paint sludge recycling?

Thank you for your information.

When I go to library and search on internet, I get some information about paint sludge recycle alternative, that is:

- carbon active
- Expansive admixture in compensating concrete

My one question, is that possible?

Aritonang
- Indonesia
1998


A. I have done some investigating on recycling paint sludge. For starters is it hazardous or non? If non, in some cases it can be used in mastic seal manufacturing. I know of one company that will review your paint sludge. You would have to submit samples, the sludge cannot be contaminated with cardboard, booth coat, dry filters, etc.

Thanks Tim

Tim Ritger
- Kohler, Wisconsin



Q. For your information, at my country (Indonesia), paint sludge included in hazardous waste. But no mistake if we want recycle that one and convert it to be new product that have value added (economical and environmental).

Furthermore, I think paint sludge from paint booth not contain contaminant because the process very simple, spray paint that not put to the painting body will be caught by circulated water.

thanks

Aritonang [returning]
- Indonesia




Q. I just built a prototype pyrolysis furnace to transform paint sludge into carbon black. I'll begin to operate next month .

If anyone have some experience in this kind of application I'd like to talk with them.

Rogerio Almeida
1998


A. Caterpillar in Peoria, Illinois has developed a unique way of recycling their paint sludge. Their process allows them to reuse the recovered and dried sludge as pigment in their first quality paint and in other coatings that are used around the plant.

They have made a deal with their paint manufacturer to buy back the sludge as a raw material for making their own coatings. In this way they have offset some of their coatings' costs.

The contact at Caterpillar is John Spangler; he is in their materials engineering group. [Ed. note: this is an old entry from 1998]

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Craig Burkart
- Naperville, Illinois


A. IN MY ORGANIZATION WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM AND WE FIRST OF ALL DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF SLUDGE ON SPRAY BOOTH.HOW?INTRODUCING ELECTROSTATIC MANUAL GUNS AND MAKING A STUDY USING TAGUCHI METHODS AND STATISTICAL METHODS IN ORDER TO OPTIMIZE THICKNESS OF PAINT. WE DECREASE 60% THE AMOUNT OF SLUDGE AND WE ARE STUDYING THE POSSIBILITY TO RECOVER THE REMAIN SLUDGE IN PAINT WITH A OUTSIDE COMPANY.

PAULO SIMIO
- Pakistan




Q. I am interested to know if anybody has got an idea of converting the paint sludge from the car industry into landscape blocks? I heard that TOYOTA at Kentucky is doing the same.

I will appreciate if you can provide me the E-mail or web site of TOYOTA factory at Kentucky. I read this news item as "TOYOTA RECYCLES SLUDGES INTO LOW-DENSITY ASPHALT". Mr. BEN KUO, an Environmental Specialist at the TOYOTA Plant at Kentucky gave this news [Ed. note: this is an old posting from 1999]

Thanks

Mukesh Khare
Indian Institute of Technology IIT, Delhi, New Delhi, India
1999



RFQ: We generate around 30000 Kg of paint sludge monthly, I like to know about any company in and around Delhi or in North India who process paint sludge.

Regards,

K R Bhat
- Gurgaon, Haryana, India
2002

Ed. note: Sorry, this RFQ is old & outdated, so contact info is no longer available. However, if you feel that something technical should be said in reply, please post it; no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?)






Q. In our paint shop 3-4 tones of paint sludge is formed in a month and disposal of that is major problem. Presently we are using it in incineration.

So I am looking for any other alternative for using that sludge in another form.

Maybe as raw material for another paint.

Is it possible ?

Sandip Pisal
mfg. co.- Mumbai, Maharastra, India
2004




Q. Respected Sir,
I am doing a project on paint sludge reduction in our company. We are finding out various root causes for sludge production & trying to control them. But still a minimum amount of sludge production is unavoidable. So I want to know whether there is any economical paint sludge reuse technology available. If so I want the technical details of it.
thanking you,

Vidhya.N
engineer in a process industry - Chennai
2004




Q. Dear Sir,
I wonder how you succeeded in minimizing the sludge?
please let me know? It will help me also. I own E D line & having same trouble

Avinash Vidhate
- Nashik, Maharashtra, India
January 26, 2008




Q. AS THE COST OF DISPOSAL OF PAINT SLUDGE IS A MATTER OF CONCERN IN TODAY'S OEM INDUSTRY.
WE HAVE TWO PROBLEMS WITH THIS SLUDGE ,
1) CAN WE REDUCE THE MOISTURE CONTENT OF THIS SLUDGE BEFORE WE DISPOSE OF IT?
2) MEANS OF SLUDGE CONVERSION INTO USABLE PAINT.

VINAYAK SHUKLA
PAINT TECHNOLOGIST - PUNE , MAHARASHTRA, INDIA
July 18, 2008




Q. I am a student at the Politecnico di Torino (Italy).
I am actually working on a research paper on recycling paintings residuals coming out from vehicles painting.
Could someone help me? I am looking forward to hearing back from you.
Thanks

CLAUDIA ROTONDO
- TORINO, ITALY
October 20, 2008



Q. I am searching for recycling solutions for an automotive paint sludge waste stream. We are not considering WTE facilities, landfill or other non recycling options.

Can anyone provide some insight or assistance for recycling / reuse options. Your help is appreciated.

Fergal McDonough
waste management service provider - St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
October 21, 2008


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But if you try to help another reader or at least try to engage them, experience on thousands of other pages in this forum demonstrates how well it can work :-)


RFQ: Dear all,

We are generating around 2000 KG of good quality less hazardous paint sludge. Anybody in Tamil Nadu is taking this sludge at free of cost?

George varkey
employee - Tamil nadu, India
January 20, 2009

Ed. note: Sorry, this RFQ is old & outdated, so contact info is no longer available. However, if you feel that something technical should be said in reply, please post it; no public commercial suggestions please ( huh? why?)





A. There is no question that, globally, suppliers and vendors are all now being challenged to eliminate paint sludge associated costs. New technology being validated in Europe and a few US plants is a dry scrubber solution, whereas with some minimal modification of the paint formula, the overspray can be captured without the use of water or disposable filters -- making the waste stream more friendly to handling in only a dry, sticky state versus with high water/moisture levels.

David O'Ryan
- Clarkston, Michigan
February 2, 2009




Q. Dear all,

Your information really useful to me. I need more input related with this paint sludge because we are also having this problem in past three years. We're searching the new method for paint sludge disposal within the factory. If you have any information related with this issue, kindly share with me.

K. Lakshmanaperumal
HSE Manager - Tamilnadu, India
February 26, 2011




Q. Our company is giving the sludge to a third party which has the responsibility to dispose of the paint sludge.
I want to ask does anybody have a better idea of treatment of sludge or recycling it within the plant?

Sunny Nagpal
- Faridabad, Haryana, India
January 13, 2012



sludge separator

A. We have provided Sludge Separators to our clients. These are able to reduce the water content of the sludge from 70% to approx. 30%, thereby reducing the overall weight of the sludge by half and hence a drastic reduction in sludge disposal costs.

nitin v.
- Pune, Maharashtra, India
August 13, 2012


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Q. WE ARE GETTING TONS OF PAINT SLUDGE AND PHOSPHATE SLUDGE FROM OUR FACTORY. CURRENTLY WE ARE DOING DISPOSAL THROUGH SOME PROCESS TO CEMENT INDUSTRIES. WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW ANY OTHER ALTERNATE WAY TO REUSE THESE HAZARDOUS WASTES.

RAMAKRISHNAN NAGARAJAN
EMPLOYEE - CHENNAI, TAMIL NADU, INDIA
May 29, 2014



wikipedia
Times Beach, Mo

A. Hi Ramakrishnan. Count yourself lucky that you have a way to dispose of hazardous waste. In the USA it's very difficult after such incidences as the Times Beach disaster. Here, the generator of the waste is responsible for it forever, regardless of how much he pays for disposal. Putting it into cement could be a terrible mistake in the USA.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
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