Ed. note: before the internet existed, there was a time when "Sysops" (system operators) ran publics forums via dial-up modems and "BBS" (Bulletin Board System) software. Here is one such discussion from 1993.
Msg. #4237 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 11/01/93 at 20:56:12
To: ALL From: VALENTINUS BRINKMANN
- chrome substitute I happened to see a small article in Popular Science of all places about a new decorative chrome substitute process made by Enthone-OMI and Western Forge. Supposed to be still a secret but they talk about a "complex cobalt alloy bath" that looks like chrome and has a salt fog to 1% corrosion of
58 hours as opposed to chrome at 30 hrs. Anyone heard anymore on this? Claim it's non-toxic, less power and more uniform coat. Sounds too good to be true.
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Msg. #4239 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 11/02/93 at 22:10:40
To: VALENTINUS BRINKMANN From: KEN ROSENBLUM
- Reply To 'chrome substitute'
I saw the same blurb, but since Enthone has poor market penetration in our area, I don't know anything about it. Ken
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Msg. #4242 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 11/03/93 at 07:46:34
To: VALENTINUS BRINKMANN From: BERL STEIN
- Reply To 'chrome substitute'
Val, this is very interesting, what issue of PS was it in? Plater B
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Msg. #4249 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 11/06/93 at 22:51:41
To: BERL STEIN From: VALENTINUS BRINKMANN
- Reply To 'chrome substitute'
November, 1993 pg. 55
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Msg. #4257 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 11/11/93 at 07:49:06
To: VALENTINUS BRINKMANN From: BERL STEIN
- Reply To 'chrome substitute'
Well, Valentinus, I checked out the info
- it's really just a small blurb of an article, not much to go by. All they say is that it has a better corrosion resistance than Cr. Let's wait 'till the patent comes out before switching away from chromium plating. Plater B
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Msg. #4261 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 11/11/93 at 19:56:23
To: BERL STEIN From: VALENTINUS BRINKMANN
- Reply To 'chrome substitute'
I agree, Berl. I don't think anyones jumping ship yet. It wouldn't be the first time the was a " miracle substitute".
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Msg. #4897 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 03/11/94 at 17:52:07
To: ALL From: SCOTT D. DAVIS
- Non Cyanide Brass Plating Anyone who has any working knwledge of brass plating or someone who offers please contact Jim Wallen at 417-866-2322 ext.227 or post message here. Thanks!
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Msg. #5177 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 05/18/94 at 17:30:35
To: ALL From: BILL TABLER, JR.
- Gold color abrasive resistant coatings. We are searching for a gold color, abrasion resistant coating that can be applied to steel, stainless, or brass base material. The coating will be used as a cosmetic coating on products for the fishing industry. Please leave me a message if you know of a coating that may fit these requirements.
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Msg. #5181 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 05/20/94 at 07:33:11
To: BILL TABLER, JR. From: STEVE RUDY
- Reply To 'Gold color abrasive resistant coatings.'
The optimum I can think of right now is a deposit of hard chrome followed by a yellow dyed, solvent based lacquer. SFR
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Msg. #5186 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 05/21/94 at 18:02:14
To: BILL TABLER, JR. From: BERL STEIN
- Reply To 'Gold color abrasive resistant coatings.'
Bill: With brass, the answer might be simple:brass can be appropriately passivated and lacquered. The coating will look golden and be reasonably wear resistant. With steel and stainless, you will find fewer inexpensive options. Titanium nitride is very abrasion resistant, but has to be deposited by a vacuum deposition process, which might be too expensive. your other option could be to brass plate, passivate and lacquer coat the metal, whether it is steel or stainless. Cheers, Plater B
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Msg. #5202 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 05/24/94 at 00:32:21
To: STEVE RUDY From: TED MOONEY
- Reply To 'Gold color abrasive resistant coatings.'
I don't know, Steve. The hardness and abrasion resistance of hard chrome isn't going to do much good _under_ a lacquer. Nickel sounds not only cheaper, but shinier and better to me. But the real reason I jumped in on this is because a consumer called today asking how she could change the color of her chrome Jacuzzi fixtures to brass. I know a couple of plating suppliers offer a "brass like" finish which is really a tinted lacquer over nickel, and I was wondering if it was something this home owner could actually do herself, and if such lacquers are available to the public. She kind of balked at the idea of flying in a brush plating expert from California at an estimated cost of
$4500.
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Msg. #5833 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 12/07/94 at 22:46:13
To: ALL From: KEN ROSENBLUM
- ALUMINUM PLATING In Germany, they electrolytically (not vacuum) plate aluminum onto various metals. Does anyone have opinions as to the following questions?
1) Is there a market in this country for plating aluminum?
2) What industries might have applications for this process?
3) If this plated aluminum could be anodized with there be a market for this duplex process?
4) Would wire manufacturers be interested in coating copper wire with anodized aluminum (insulating the wire)? Aluminum has some very good anti corrosive properties. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Msg. #5841 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 12/08/94 at 12:16:52
To: KEN ROSENBLUM From: GORDY SEPPANEN
- Reply To 'ALUMINUM PLATING'
I have discussed this process with the vendors in Coon Rapids, MN and think it has merit. The resulting coating can be anodized or chromated and is very pure. I explored it as an alternative to a black chromated zinc process we now use which has thermal problems. The customer was unwilling to pursue aluminum plating by this non-water process because of the lack of suppliers, currently there is only one.
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Msg. #5952 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 12/20/94 at 18:04:52
To: ALL From: MARK LEVIN
- Acicular or ceramic deposit Do you know of any immersion plating process that could deposit acicular metal or ceramic material on a metal substrate. Any help you can give me researching this answer would be greatly appreciated.
-- Mark Levin.
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Msg. #5954 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 12/21/94 at 15:34:21
To: MARK LEVIN From: RON LANDRETTE
- Reply To 'Acicular or ceramic deposit'
ok,I'll bite,what is acicular metal?
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Msg. #5957 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 12/22/94 at 08:00:09
To: MARK LEVIN From: STEVE RUDY
- Reply To 'Acicular or ceramic deposit'
What is an acicular metal? SFR
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Msg. #5962 in ** Ask Plater B**
Posted on 12/24/94 at 09:43:06
To: MARK LEVIN From: DENNIS WARNER
- Reply To 'Acicular or ceramic deposit'
There are several general aviation engine overhaul shops that advertise a
"cermichrome" or "cerminil" cylinder coating. My understanding is that instead of a regular hard chrome repair, they have some process to introduce a ceramic material into the chrome plate. It is supposed to cut engine breaking time and seat the rings almost instantly. wether or not the ceramic is plated in with the chrome, or nickel in the cerminil process, I do not know, but perhaps a call to one of them would help. And, what exactly is a acicular metal? dw
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