No passwords, No popups, No AI, No cost:
we earn from your affiliate purchases

Home /
T.O.C.
Fun
FAQs
Good
Books
Ref.
Libr.
Adver-
tise
Help
Wanted
Current
Q&A's
Site 🔍
Search
ted_yosem
Sound technical content, curated with aloha by
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, NJ
finishing.com -- The Home Page of the Finishing Industry


  pub
  The authoritative public forum
  for Metal Finishing since 1989

-----

Cyanide testing in fish




Q. I would like to know if it is possible to use the HACH DR2010 spectrophotometer [adv: Hach spectrophotometers on eBay or Amazon [affil links] to test for the presence of low levels of cyanide (sodium cyanide) in seawater containing fish. Additionally, is there a possibility of using the same device to test fish tissue for the same chemical?

Jeff Archer
Ocean Adventure Subic Bay - Philippines
2001


thumbs up sign Oh my...PLEASE.....not another "Dead Fish Saga"!

Marc Green
Marc Green
anodizer - Boise, Idaho
2001


A. First, do you intend to examine seawater-containing fish, or seawater that contains fish?

Secondly, about the available spectrophotometric methods: There are at least two methods, quoted in Aubrey Knowles' "Colorimetric Analysis of Metal Finishing & Metal Working Solutions & Effluents" (1999) ⇦ on Amazon, AbeBooks [affil links] with sensitivity given in the range of 5-60 and 1-20 ppb, respectively, though I suspect that for the lower end of the range you'll need to use a cell with a long light pathlength (e.g. 10 cm)- check to see if your HACH can accommodate such cells. Essentially, both methods involve oxidation of HCN to cyanogen chloride which is then reacted with methylphenylpyrazolone, bispyrazolone and pyridine in the first case, barbituric acid and pyridine in the second case. Both complexes absorb in the visible (580 and 620nm resp.) so any working spectrophotometer should do for the higher part of the specified concentration ranges.

Note though that if part of the cyanide is present as metal complexes (which is likely) then a decomposition-distillation-absorption procedure becomes necessary for the separation of cyanide, and it is very tedious.

Emanuel I. Cooper
IBM - Yorktown Heights, NY, U.S.A.
2001


A. Check out micro dist by lachet instruments you also have to color develop with pyr-barbturic acid.

robert benik
- kansas city, Missouri, USA
2007


A. The problem with the question is that it does not consider how one gets cyanide that is bound in fish tissues into solution. The International Marinelife Alliance used the methodology developed by the American Society of Testing and Materials that involves dissolving fish tissues in sulfuric acid, followed by reflux distillation to free the cyanide as hydrogen cyanide gas, then recaptures cyanide ion in sodium hydroxide. The cyanide ion can then be detected by an ion selective electrode or colorimetric methods.

Dr. Peter J. Rubec
International Marinelife Alliance - Saint Petersburg, Florida, USA
January 3, 2008




(No "dead threads" here! If this page isn't currently on the Hotline your Q, A, or Comment will restore it)

Q, A, or Comment on THIS thread -or- Start a NEW Thread

Disclaimer: It's not possible to fully diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations might be harmful.

If you are seeking a product or service related to metal finishing, please check these Directories:

Finishing
Jobshops
Capital
Equipment
Chemicals &
Consumables
Consult'g,
& Software


About/Contact  -  Privacy Policy  -  ©1995-2024 finishing.com, Pine Beach, New Jersey, USA  -  about "affil links"