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What is 'Kelite'? The Kelite Bldg. in Los Angeles



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thumbs up sign My father, David Merrill was a chemical engineer with Kelite in the 1950's. He worked in the Los Angeles office. In about 1954 he was transferred to a site in Kansas City, KS as a principal chemist. It was to be just a two year stint but at the conclusion of the two years they wanted him to stay in Kansas. He declined and returned to california with a wife and four children in tow. He is gone now so I cannot go back and ask but I clearly remember giant tan drums with metal lids that said Kelite on them. They were in our garage in Overland Park and were used for moving back to California.

Q. My question is whether anyone remembers a Kelite operation in Kansas City?

Paige Baker
- Santa Ana, California
March 26, 2021




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Q. I just received a print from a customer in Europe that lists a note asking for Kelite to be applied to a brass center conductor. I'm not familiar with the term Kelite. Is it a brand name for a European process or is it a generic process? What is its usage in an electrical environment?

Thank you for any assistance.

Fred Counter
microwave development - Needham, Massachusetts
2001



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Q. While working in A Naval Shipyard in the late 70's we used a product called Kelite. It was in Powder form and was diluted with water. The mixture then was siphoned into a steam hose, and was used to clean Electrical and Electronic cabinets and parts. It had to be rinsed off after cleaning with cold water. The cabinets and parts cleaned were then baked in a oven at about 90 degrees for several hours to remove any remaining moisture.

Clifford Jones
- Bremerton, Washington
2001



Q. Hello

I had some more questions about Kelite, I found at my work a few jars of a product sample labeled "Kelite No.89" which contain some white powder. Does anybody know if there is any safety or environmental concerns with that product especially regarding its disposal?

Thanks

Thomas

Thomas Schneider
aircraft supply - Valencia, California
2005



A. Hi, Folks. I suspect, but don't know, that this is an alkaline cleaner. You could probably determine the pH. You might check for cyanide since cyanide was not uncommon in cleaning solutions years ago. And if there is no cyanide, titrate it to confirm the degree of alkalinity.

I also suspect that it was a product of Allied-Kelite, an old-line chemical supplier from Baltimore which eventually became part of Macdermid; they may be able to tell you if there is any info about Kelite No. 89. Good luck.

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2005


A. Kelite No. 89 was a steam cleaning compound for Aluminum and painted surfaces. Phosphate based & buffered to 9.5-9.6 pH approved by Ford Motor Co. and Braniff international.

Tony Cangelosi
- New Hudson, Michigan
July 3, 2013



A. My Grandfather, Louis Sorensen, founded Kelite Corporation in the 1930s. It was purchased by Richardson Chemical in the 1960's and Allied Chemical in the 1970's. It was based in Los Angeles, CA on Main Street. I can tell your more about the products if you are interested.

Doug Sorensen
- Boulder, Colorado
September 13, 2009




Q. Hi Doug,
I was wondering what happened to the Kelite Steam Cleaners? Who sells the Kelite Cleaners now?
Thanks.

Cathy Steyaert
- Detroit, Michigan
February 17, 2010




Q. Mr. Sorenson, what do you know about the Kelite building itself, at 1301 N. Main St in Los Angeles? I rode by on a bike ride and find it quite enchanting, I'd like to live there someday.

It is in great disrepair but the current owners have kept their taxes current at least.

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Judy Berg
- Monrovia, California
October 11, 2011



October 17, 2011

A. Hello Judy B of Monrovia and Cathy S of Detroit

I had forgotten all about my post on this site. The building you have pictured on 1301 N. Main St in Los Angeles was the Corporate HQ. Regional distribution centers also existed in the Chicago area and in Berkley Heights, NJ. In the early 1960's Kelite was listed on the (former) American Stock Exchange and was purchased by Richardson Chemical. Richardson in turn was later purchased By Allied Chemical. My Grandfather, who founded the company in the early 1930's retired after the sale to Richardson. Kelite Corporate operations were absorbed into Richardson. Allied also acquired Witco and the Kelite and Witco operations were combined at the old Kelite location in LA. 1994, Witco-Allied-Kelite was acquired by MacDermid Corp. The building was vacated at that time and then abandoned. An environmental cleanup effort included the complete gutting of the structure. Only bearing walls and exterior wall remain. The building is currently owned by a neighboring commercial real estate investor. I had considered asking the current owner if he would allow me to retrieve the "Kelite" sign hanging above the corner window as a kind of family heirloom but it is probably too big and bulky to keep around the house!

There are additional plant and warehouse buildings to the rear of the building pictured on Main street. The property extends all the back to the boundary of the Santa Fe railroad right of way where rail spurs once terminated at the Kelite loading and unloading faculties.

Kelite's first products focused on industrial cleaning solvents, metal finishing, electrochemicals, and detergents. The company's products stayed generally focused in these areas although there was a brief foray into the consumer retail detergents markets such as laundry soaps and dishwashing powder in the 50's and 60's.

If you are in possession of old liquid or powdered chemicals in Kelite containers, I suggest that you dispose of them in the appropriate industrial chemical disposal method. Some of these chemicals decompose over time and most of these products are highly toxic and would be harmful to people and the environment. They could also damage or react with other material found in the factory or home.

The steam cleaning machines, some of which were configured on two or four wheeled trailers and could be towed behind a passenger car or light truck, were marketed and sold in the 1950's. I think they were discontinued after that. As a boy, I recall my father, who ran the Berkley Heights distribution center in the 1950's driving up with one in tow and backing it up in the family driveway. He used it to steam clean his car's engine. (It was intended for more challenging tasks such as cleaning the inside of rail tanker cars.)

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thumbs up sign I worked at that site from 1985 to 1992. It manufactured most of the Allied-Kelite product line but their major money maker was the Niklad series of electroless nickels. Glenn Mallory researched there and wrote what was then the premier textbook on the subject.

Daniel Rupp
- Grand Junction, Colorado
February 26, 2019


A. Hi Daniel, I knew that gentleman, "the godfather of electroless nickel", Glenn O. Mallory. His good friend B.J. Mason was always a lot of fun, and introduced Glenn to me and others at an Irish Pub as Glenn O'Mallory :-)

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
February 2019




Allied Kelite Pension Obligations?

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Q. My dad Bob Matistic worked as a district manager for Allied-Kelite in Berkeley Heights NJ in the 1970's. He passed away last month and as we are going through everything; we will look for any Kelite items.

Apparently a few years ago a company benefits office reached out to him about an account/pension? But his health prohibited him from responding. Any idea what company that would have been? We are thinking maybe a company (Macdermid?) bought the company and was trying to reach out.

Any help would be appreciated.

Karen Matistic Morgan
- Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA
September 26, 2019


A. Hi Karen. Condolences over the passing of your dad.

And you have my sympathy re. pensions. In the same time frame I worked for a company that was owned by American Can Co. and I was owed a pension. I started trying to track it down when I hit 60, did not get it as I was supposed to at 65, and finally found it at 73 years old, 8+ years late after 13 years of hunting! I had a certificate for the pension from American Can Co. for it, and my mistake was thinking that whoever bought American Can Co owed it, based on still holding that certificate from them from lo those many years ago. But actually, when the particular division I worked for was sold, the pension obligation followed the division, not the parent corporation :-)

Thus, although I don't know for sure, I think you're on the right track with MacDermid! I'd suggest contacting human resources and finding out from them who handles their pension payments ... there's an excellent chance that that payment company has your father's pension. I have no idea whether the obligation passes on his death, or whether a lump sum is still owed to his beneficiary though. Best of luck!

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
October 2019


thumbs up sign  Thank you for getting back to me. I will follow that route and post the results for anyone else in the same situation.

Regards,

Karen Matistic Morgan [returning]
- Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA
October 11, 2019


A. Allied Kelite was bought by MacDermid; MacDermid was bought by Platform; Platform was bought by Element Solutions, Fort Lauderdale FL, the current owner.

tom_rochester
Tom Rochester
CTO - Jackson, Michigan, USA
Plating Systems & Technologies, Inc.
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October 14, 2019


thumbs up sign  Thank you Tom. You were able to get me on the right track. I can't believe how many times the company was sold. The pension obligations weren't included in one sale. I was able to contact someone who confirmed that my dad had a pension with M&T and it was in the Total pension plan. I spoke with someone from Total and they are mailing my mom a packet of information for filing.

Thanks again everyone for your help!

Karen

Karen Morgan [returning]
- Cherry Hill, New Jersey USA
February 8, 2020



Glad I was able to help a little.

tom_rochester
Tom Rochester
CTO - Jackson, Michigan, USA
Plating Systems & Technologies, Inc.
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February 8, 2020



That's great news Karen! M&T was owned by American Can when I worked there, and I also ended up receiving my pension payout from M&T through Total too. It was a dinky $28/month, but it's the principle of the thing, as we try to follow money owed to us, when companies are bought, sold, and restructured endlessly. Their purpose isn't avoiding pension payouts, but that's quite clearly a very frequent result :-)

Tell your legislator that alerting pension recipients of who has assumed the pension obligation simply must become a requirement of any such sales.

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
February 2020




thumbs up sign My father Michael Murphy was the sales manager for Kelite,;
he helped build the company before it was sold to Allied Chemical

Patrick Murphy
- San Gabriel, California
July 2, 2020




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