No passwords, No popups, No cost, No AI:
we earn from 'affiliate link' purchases, making the site possible

Home /
T.O.C.
Fun
FAQs
Good
Books
Ref.
Libr.
Adver-
tise
Help
Wanted
Current
Q&A's
Site 🔍
Search
ted_yosem
Sound technical content, curated with aloha by
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, NJ
finishing.com -- The Home Page of the Finishing Industry

  The authoritative public forum
  for Metal Finishing since 1989
  mfhotline


  -----

I need an alternative to black hard anodize on 2024 aluminum




January 22, 2013

Q. We are a precision machine shop. Our customer manufactures blood centrifuge equipment. Because of the high G forces involved they have chosen to use 2024 aluminum forgings. The plating requirement is for .002" hard anodize dyed black and nickel acetate sealed. Out of the 4 key platers we use 3 have either burned parts or pitted them. I know it is very difficult to plate but we cannot afford to lose any due to the amount of time and material we have invested in the part. I want to discuss plating alternatives with our customer and would appreciate your professional feedback and suggestions. Coating thickness is critical so the print dimensions will not have to be modified.
I am looking for a coating thickness of .001" with excellent adhesion and moderate lubricity. There is also the factor of distortion of the material at high G forces. The coating cannot crack or peel. I am considering TFE Electroless Nickel as one alternative. What about an epoxy paint or some sort of powder coat. Can powder coat thickness be controlled to that extent? For security reasons I cannot attach a photograph.

Ben Vann
Quality Manager - Auburn, California, USA



A. Hi. The electroless nickel plating with TFE sounds reasonable to me. Another alternative would be black e-coating; I'm sure it can be done with polyester e-coat, and I think epoxy e-coat is feasible as well. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
January 25, 2013


February 5, 2013

A. We have had good luck with hardcoating using some Clariant additives that allow you to hardcoat at elevated temperature without burning and provide a smoother surface RMA finish on the parts being processed. In fact we just took over a job where other people were burning/pitting some A356 alloy with conventional hardcoat. See if any of your local sources can provide that service. "It can be done!".

It may be worth noting that our line is of the "manual" variety where our trained people are continuously monitoring the process. A lot of times people lean too hard on the caustic etch and the surface finish is destroyed before it even hits the anodize bath.

It might be easier to work this angle than try to re-invent the wheel especially for a medical type application!

Brandon Cerecke
- Bridgman, Michigan USA




(No "dead threads" here! If this page isn't currently on the Hotline your Q, A, or Comment will restore it)

Q, A, or Comment on THIS thread -or- Start a NEW Thread

Disclaimer: It's not possible to fully diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations might be harmful.

If you are seeking a product or service related to metal finishing, please check these Directories:

Finishing
Jobshops
Capital
Equipment
Chemicals &
Consumables
Consult'g,
& Software


About/Contact  -  Privacy Policy  -  ©1995-2024 finishing.com, Pine Beach, New Jersey, USA  -  about "affil links"