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Fluoride removal from waste water below 5 ppm




June 10, 2011

Q. Hy,
my name is Andrija Proso and I am chemical engineer in Croatia.
We are producing laminated aluminum foil (lacquer, aluminum with chromate conversion coating in it, adhesive, CPP).
Our production speed is around 70 m/h of laminate.
Chemical pretreatment before lamination goes like this: first foil is entering in acid cleaning (H2SO4+ non-ionic tenside; Ridoline 124) bath, after that it is rinsed with water, after that it enters in chromating bath (Alodine 45+Alodine 401; mainly chromic, phosphoric an HF acid) then rinsed in several stages with DI. Water.
The rinse water goes to waste water treatment plant, the chromium rinse water (contains Cr6+) are reduced with sodium bisulphite at pH=2.0-2.5, then is mixed with rinse water from acid cleaner bath and alkalized with lime milk to pH=10 which is best for removal for phosphate (limit is <2.00 ppm), and also suitable for heavy metals precipitations. We also add some poly-electrolyte to improve sedimentation of the sludge in the settling pool.
At the end of the pool we are pumping clear water (pH = 10) to another reactor where we polish the pH to 6.5-7.0 (discharge limit is 6.5-8.0) with HCl and discharge the water in sewer.
The problem is next, we still have high fluoride in the finish around 14-18 ppm (limit is <5.00 ppm).
Everything else is below limits (total Cr <0.1 ppm; Cr6+ <0.05 ppm; P <2.0 ppm; Al <2.0 ppm.

I try in jar test to remove fluoride by adding Al2SO4 to water (pH=10; one that is pumped from the end of the settling pool to polishing reactor) and bringing the pH to around 4-4.2, and than neutralize it to pH 6.5-7.0 with NaOH to start Al(OH)3 precipitation, I also add polyelectrolyte to speed up the settling. I run test for fluoride and they were below limit of 5 ppm.

The problem is that we have no space to install another settling unit (it demands a big one), is it possible to resolve this in one step?
I am also afraid to use Al2SO4 because if sedimentation is not perfect, we will have a new problem, that is high Al (> 2.00 ppm) at finish.

Can you please give me some advice regarding this problem?

Kind regards,

Andrija Proso
Employee - Croatia


A. Andrija-
Alter your treatment scheme to include calcium hydroxide in a moderate stoichiometric excess so that you can precipitate and filter out calcium fluoride. Good luck.

Jon Barrows
Jon Barrows, MSF, EHSSC
GOAD Company
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Independence, Missouri
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First of two simultaneous responses -- June 10, 2011


A. As you have discovered, a single precipitation step is usually sufficient to get <10 mg/L of Fluoride, but not <5 mg/L. A double precipitation step can achieve <5 mg/L.

If a double precipitation step is not possible, then you may achieve lower fluoride by adding hexametaphosphate or bone char to the primary precipitation step. Jar testing will be required to determine the dosage. One other possibility is a polishing step using activated alumina as the selective ion exchanger. Regenerations are long and slow, but activated alumina can achieve <1 mg/L results.

Good luck.

Lyle Kirman
consultant - Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Second of two simultaneous responses -- June 13, 2011




Q. We plate "leaded Brass" at our facility and using a Fluoride based preparation chemical is a problem because the fluoride ends up in the rinse water and without any special treatment for fluorides it goes down the sewer line. Our POTW limits our fluoride discharge to 3 ppm. Is there any other chemical that can be used?

B Ishtiaq
- New York, USA
July 8, 2013



simultaneous replies

A. Is the plating bath based on fluoboric acid? If so, then you have a very difficult problem. The fluoborate ion hydrolyses rather quickly to release the first two of the four fluoride ions it contains, but after this, only very slowly. This BF2(OH)2- ion will not precipitate with calcium, but will test positive for fluoride if the analysis includes a pre-distillation step.

Other solutions to your problem are to use a plating bath formulated with MSA instead of fluoboric acid, or to close-loop the rinses by using vacuum distillation.

Lyle Kirman
consultant - Cleveland Heights, Ohio
July 12, 2013


A. That is a tough limit.

What I used to do is: add lime to a pH of about 9. Then, add calcium chloride such that there's about 400 ppm excess. More does not help. (I did a study of this) Then let settle, decant, dewater solids, etc.This will get you down to 10 - 15 mg/l.

Then, I guess you will have to apply a polish treatment to the combined decant and filter press return water. Alumina adsorbs fluoride.

dave wichern
Dave Wichern
Consultant - The Bronx, New York
July 12, 2013




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