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Colour change when clear anodising aluminum




Q. We have had a couple of machined aluminum parts anodised clear, when we received them back they are grey in colour, we have checked that they are anodised with the ohms setting on a volt meter, and are ok.
other parts have come back clear,not from this batch, the anodisers have said the colour change parts are of different grade or type of aluminum, could this be correct?
Stephen

Stephen Greenaway
underwater equipment - United Kingdom
May 6, 2011



A. Possibly there may be the following reasons
1. quality of the alum. alloys used. if iron or manganese quantity is high.
2. etching done at high temperature and may be high concentration of NaOH, subsequent bad rinsing water,
3.weak HNO3 Conc. in desmutting tank

ABOOBAKER CHUDESARA
ANODIZING/POWDER COATING CHEMIST - Lagos, Nigeria
First of two simultaneous responses -- May 6, 2011



Second of two simultaneous responses -- May 6, 2011

A. Different alloys will produce different colors when anodized, depending on the alloying constituents. This is why "clear" is not really the preferred term. "Natural" is better wording. Generally, the purer the alloy, the more "clear" the coating. Of course, there are other variables to be considered, such as pretreatment, and coating thickness.

So basically, your anodizer is correct..in order to have your parts match in color, you should use the same alloy, and preferably from the same lot of material.

Marc Green
Marc Green
anodizer - Boise, Idaho


A. Stephen,

Adding to Marc's last comment......same alloy, same lot of material and SAME ANODIZER. There are too many anodizing conditions out there, with/without additives, different acid concentrations, different operating temperatures running at low / high current density anodizing...etc.

SK Cheah
- Penang, Malaysia
May 9, 2011


I agree

ABOOBAKER CHUDESARA
ANODIZING/POWDER COATING CHEMIST - Lagos, Nigeria
May 14, 2011


thumbs up signThanks for all your help,

Stephen Greenaway
- Swindon, UK
May 18, 2011




Q. Regarding colour anodising, what is the main factor for separate colour like lower bronze?

Pradeep Dey
- Orissa, India
September 13, 2012


A. Hi Pradeep. Is the lighter shade a recent problem? Are you sure the anodizing thickness is the same as it used to be? The color saturation in dyed anodizing tends to be proportional to the thickness of the anodized layer.

But please don't frame questions in the abstract because then they can't be answered without a hundred ifs, ands, and buts :-)

Instead, please tell us who you are, what motivates the question, and what you know about the operating conditions. I don't really even understand what you are asking anyway. Is this oxalic acid anodizing, or clear anodizing with a chromic acid seal, or are you implying that you are doing two-step anodizing with an inorganic dye? Thanks!

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
September 13, 2012




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