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Rust spots on nitric acid passivated stainless steel




I have a problem arising at my job where with use nitric acid to passivate stainless steel. We passivate nothing but stainless steel with a chromium level higher than 16%. I need to know if our nitric acid bath which stays between 20 and 25% by volume can be contaminated somehow and cause small rust spots on the surface of these SS parts. The spots usually don't show up until after they leave our shop. Please, I need some info.

Ryan Roy
Plant Mager - Bristol, Connecticut, USA
January 14, 2011



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First be sure the organic soil is completely removed and not re-deposited as floating in the rinse. Then be sure the passivation solution is below 2%/weight dissolved iron. Then be sure the particular passivation solution is approved for the alloy that is rusting.

robert probert
Robert H Probert
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Ryan,
It sounds like you are using a Type 3(A967)/Type VII(QQ-P-35) nitric bath, but you didn't mention the temperature or process time used, or the exact grade(s) of stainless involved. Assuming your passivation bath is being run properly, you may also be getting surface iron contamination on your parts, either too much for the passivation process you are using to fully remove or it is occurring after passivation. Also, what type of environment are the parts being installed in? A highly corrosive atmosphere will eventually overcome any passivation, though a better passivation will hold out for longer. Let us know if we can help.

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If there are hundreds of tiny rust spots, It quite probably was because the customer ran the parts on a rotary brush that was made of 410SS. There is enough iron in 410 to rust. If there are tiny pieces of 410 stuck in the metal, in my experience, there is no amount of cleaning / passivization that will allow it to pass the salt spray test.

Another problem is the customer uses the same blast cabinet on the SS as they use on steel parts.

It takes a lot of talking to convince a customer that it is NOT OK to use 410 on any SS. The standard reply is we do not do that or "but it is SS".

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida



Do a search on this forum, this question comes up again and again.

The most likely cause is iron contaminated shot/grain media before passivation. The easy way to check is to run a (covered) magnet over it.

Jenny Bibby
- UK



Ryan

Do you perform a high-humidity or water-immersion test on your parts before you ship them? If not, you can pick up a used scientific incubator cheap that will do the trick. Some CO2 incubators (Forma Scientific 3033) will control the humidity to 97% and are a cost effective alternative to environmental chambers for this application. With testing your product, your customer shouldn't get any surprises.

Willie Alexander
- Colorado Springs, Colorado
January 18, 2011




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