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pH determination of zinc plating solution which kills pH meters
December 23, 2010
Hi,
My factory uses a mixed solution of Zinc Chloride and Ammonium Chloride.
pH is one of our control parameters.
Unfortunately, our pH meter gets poisoned by the solution after a while
and the probe needs to be changed frequently.
I also heard that even top-range pH meters will get poisoned, and they only last slightly longer than normal pH meters.
Therefore I would like to ask if there's any other way to determine the pH to the accuracy of 0.1 or 0.2? Our pH range is from 3.5 to 5.5.
Thank you!
Regards,
Galvanizing Plant - Employee - Selangor, Malaysia
First of two simultaneous responses -- December 23, 2010
You can control it with a proper colorimetric indicator, but that is a bit of a pain.
I will guess that you are using a silver- silver chloride type pH meter. Switch to a different indicator.
Gel type indicators will stand more abuse than conventional liquid units. High dollar units that are typically ground glass joints (no frit) use a lot more solution in the tube. but it tends to keep the intruding solution out of the unit. Also, they are very easy to dump and refill, thus prolonging their use.
Next, keep the probe in a pH 4 solution and not in the tank except when you need a reading. Leaving it in the tank is nice, but it is darn expensive.
- Navarre, Florida
Second of two simultaneous responses -- December 24, 2010
Sir:
If you are referring to zinc ammonium chloride galvanizing flux solution, then I have had exactly the same experience with pH meters. Namely the probes are destroyed AND they do NOT display a pH that is correct.
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Regards,
Galvanizing Consultant - Hot Springs, South Dakota, USA
December 29, 2010
Dear Sirs,
Thanks alot for your response! I shall follow your advices and do some trial & error testings.
Best Regards,
- Selangor, Malaysia
Use a double junction probe. My probes last typically > 1 year and I am measuring the same solution.
Trent Kaufman
electroplater - Galva, Illinois
January 4, 2011
January 10, 2011
Dear Mr Trent,
Thanks for your advice!
I shall discuss with my lab equipment supplier
Regards,
- Selangor, Malaysia
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