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Tartaric-sulfuric acid anodizing
Q. tartaric acid
⇦ this on
eBay
or
Amazon [affil links] anodizing (TSA) and boric sulfuric acid anodizing (BSAA) are developed as alternatives to chromic acid anodizing due to REACH regulations. We are looking for an alternative to chemical conversion coating meeting the requirements of MIL-DTL-5541
[⇦ this spec on DLA] and MIL-DTL-81706
[⇦ this spec on DLA]
. For the being time, we are using Alodine 1200s. Alodine 1200s is insulating material itself, however when we apply to Aluminum surface thin layers, we obtain Class 1A and Class 3 coatings according to MIL-DTL-5541 where the parts are conducting electricity.
My question is: if we apply thin layers of TSA or BSAA can we obtain Class 1A or Class 3 parts?
Thank you in advance
ENGINEER - ANKARA, TURKEY
October 30, 2008
publicly reply to AYSUN AKIN
A. Aysun,
Anodising is not conversion coating and so will not meet the requirements of MIL-DTL-5541
[⇦ this spec on DLA] regardless of class.
What you need to do is talk to your customer and see if they would consider TSA or BSAA as a replacement for the MIL-DTL-5541.
The other possibility, if it is allowed by your customer, is to try the non-chromate conversion coatings. Again make sure you communicate with your customer at all times as this will involve a design change and could potentially affect the functionality of the part.
Aerospace - Yeovil, Somerset, UK
November 5, 2008
publicly reply to Brian Terry
Q. I hope someone can help. Our company has been asked about converting to tartaric acid
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eBay
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Amazon [affil links] /sulfuric anodising from Chromic acid anodising due to our customers desire to comply with the European REACH legislation. As REACH relates to 'substances of concern' being present in the finished article, then is there any Chromate in the surface of a component that has been chromic acid anodised? If not, then surely the REACH legislation should not apply to CAA finishes.
Thanks in advance for any response given.
company chemist - Isle of Man, British Isles
February 24, 2010
publicly reply to Mark Lees
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A. Yes, CAA has chromate in the finish, however, for REACH compliance you may be able to claim an "article exemption". Read more about REACH as it applies to metal finishing here: https://www.nmfrc.org/compliance/reach.cfm ![]() Jon Barrows, MSF, EHSSC Independence, Missouri February 25, 2010 publicly reply to Jon Barrows February 26, 2010 A. Mark, Aerospace - Yeovil, Somerset, UK publicly reply to Brian Terry |
Q. There is talk of a tartaric acid ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] sulfuric acid Solution that is being tried. If anyone can give me a procedure for the analysis of the total acid by titration with the use of a burette I would be very happy.
Michael BoissinoptElectro plating - Southend Essex, United Kingdom
May 20, 2010
publicly reply to Michael Boissinopt
Q. Currently having to set a Chemical Analytical Laboratory from scratch to help support the new anodising production line which is not installed yet.
Cannot find any standard methods to analyse Tartaric Sulfuric Acid bath and maintain the pH.
Has anyone got any methods to analyse the solution?
- United Kingdom
May 15, 2012
publicly reply to Anthony Hopker
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