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We want to switch to infrared curing on powder coating
I need details of the Infra red heaters used in paint booth - I would prefer to have the rates also for 5.5, 9.6, 24.7 KW
Hemant Shah- Baroda, Gujarat, India
2001
Dear reader,
Here at our industry we use convection ovens for curing the powder coating on our products, however we are growing short of space and the time needed for curing the paint is too high (about 20 min) so we are considering using infrared lamps to cure our products, since my ovens today are about 6 m X 3 m X 3 m (1 meter is about 3,3 feet) and the curing temperature that my paint requires range from 170 deg C to
220 deg C (338 deg F to 428 deg F) I would like to have an idea of how many lamps, and what wattage these lamps must have so that I can substitute my convection ovens for IR ones.
Bear in mind that the parts that I usually cure range from 0,2 m X
0,2 m to 1 m X 1 m (although they are not necessarily flat, instead, they have a wide variety of geometry)
Methods and processes analyst - Fortaleza, Ceará, Brazil
April 30, 2009
I am not going to give you the answers you require... only some good advice. Without visiting your premises no one can/should give you advice on the locating of the heat source, their number or energy required. As you state the geometry of the items makes it an almost impossible task. In the long term you will save money by obtaining the advice from a company who can visit you and see what problems need to be overcome, i.e. shaded areas, etc.
Terry HicklingBirmingham, United Kingdom
May 7, 2009
May 8, 2009
I do understand why you can't give a response to the letter (reading it now, seems I gave to much information, and the tone seems to ask for a precise response...), though my actual interest is in obtaining some ESTIMATES from people who already use IR ovens. The person who is providing a consultant job for us, is also a representative of the company who wishes to sell the quartz lamps for us, so I'm just trying to check what he is telling us.
For example, when asked why would a near IR emitter wouldn't be in our interest (since it provides the faster cures) he couldn't clearly state why (he seems to just want to sell medium IR equipment for everything), though I did later found out that near IR emitters suffers interference from paint color (white absorbing less energy, black absorbing more) while medium and far IR do not (we use a wide variety of colors).
so if you could say what your impression on comparing IR ovens to convection ones, or estimates you have for IR ovens that would be much appreciated.
- Fortaleza, Ceará, Brazil
First of two simultaneous responses --
PM's are more involved(time/cost)with IR's. Make sure and ask the rep to explain preventative maintenance procedures with you because it takes a greater commitment to operate an IR. Powder blows off of the parts onto the reflective surface and then cures. They need to be chemically stripped and polished frequently to keep the IR functioning at full potential. The way that you find out the reflective surfaces are dirty is when a whole days worth of parts come out under-cured.
Sheldon Taylor
supply chain electronics
Wake Forest, North Carolina
May 12, 2009
Second of two simultaneous responses --
Hi, tried to contact you direct via your email address and fax number without success. If you require assistace please contact me direct.
Terry HicklingBirmingham, United Kingdom
May 12, 2009
That's strange, as for fax maybe it was required that you called and asked for fax signal first, or maybe one of the huge number required to make an international call was missed... anyway, I'll contact you, hope you can get back to me.
And thanks for the heads up Sheldon, I'll look into that, but I think that just applies to IR lamps right? or does it apply to ceramic surfaces as well?
- Fortaleza, Ceará, Brazil
May 14, 2009
There are different designs so I can't really say unless I can see how the ceramic is being use. My main point was just check into the PM process of the unit that you buy. The IR that I used to use had removable reflective surfaces behind the (bulbs?/elements?) and it took everyone by surprise at the amount of effort involved in keeping the oven at peak performance.
Sheldon Taylor
supply chain electronics
Wake Forest, North Carolina
May 18, 2009
If you're considering IR, I would also have the rep perform a test of the coating in an IR oven. Depending on the coating and surface, you can often have challenges with even or full-thickness curing. It is also important to consider the operating costs if the oven is electric vs. gas (ask the rep for info on energy needed to figure this out).
Patrick HarmonPittsburgh Spray Equipment Company - Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA
April 7, 2016
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