No passwords, No popups, No AI, No cost:
we earn from your affiliate purchases

Home /
T.O.C.
Fun
FAQs
Good
Books
Ref.
Libr.
Adver-
tise
Help
Wanted
Current
Q&A's
Site 🔍
Search
ted_yosem
Sound technical content, curated with aloha by
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, NJ
finishing.com -- The Home Page of the Finishing Industry


  pub
  The authoritative public forum
  for Metal Finishing since 1989

-----

Hard chromium plated piston rods leak oil past the seal under pressure




August 12, 2008

We have piston rods that work in pressurized oil containers with a seal.
The seal allows the piston rod to move and prevents oil to leak out of the oil container.
During static leakage test under pressurized conditions e.g., during transportation, we observe drops of oil several centimeters away from the seal.
The area between the oil drops and the seal is dry (no oil observed).
We know that that the seal is ok.
Sometimes are the piston rods ok, sometimes there can be extensive oil drop leakage.
The problem should be related with the manufacturing of the piston rods.

Can anyone give a hint of the reason for this and how to prevent this problem?

Jan Sandberg
Manufacturer of products including piston rods - Stockholm, Sweden



August 18, 2008

Hi Jan,
We need to have more information about the seal, just now I think the problem can be in the chrome deposit, because it happens not always.

Regards
Anders Sundman
Surface engineering
Sweden

Anders Sundman
Anders Sundman
4th Generation Surface Engineering
Consultant - Arvika,
Sweden




Hi Anders,

About the seal
It is a NBR polymer aimed to be used to seal off the interface between air/oil when the piston rod moves.

During dynamic leakage testing the oil leakage is zero (Not detectable). Most likely due to the movement and the lower testing time.

During the static leakage test the time until oil drops can be observed is appr 2-10 days.

Regards,

Jan Sandberg
- Stockholm, Sweden
August 21, 2008



Hi Jan,
Have you made any study on the chrome surface deposit to see if the chrome deposit is ok. (Ask a metal engineering lab to take a cut and study the deposit in microscope).
Do you grind the chrome deposit? Because I think you have macrocracking in the chrome deposit.

Anders Sundman
Anders Sundman
4th Generation Surface Engineering
Consultant - Arvika,
Sweden

August 23, 2008



July 20, 2009

Hi,

Have you solved your leakage problem?
These situations can be very simple to highly complex, and can involve in-depth analysis. There are however some basic issues that can be looked at initially.

1. seal design (fit, tol, energizer, runout, material etc..)
2. seal assembly methods. this is more common of a failure than you would think.
3. mating hardware variations. also the cause of many premature seal failures.
4. system operation.

Robert a [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]
- California


none
adv.
this text gets replaced with bannerText
spacer gets replaced with bannerImages



(No "dead threads" here! If this page isn't currently on the Hotline your Q, A, or Comment will restore it)

Q, A, or Comment on THIS thread -or- Start a NEW Thread

Disclaimer: It's not possible to fully diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations might be harmful.

If you are seeking a product or service related to metal finishing, please check these Directories:

Finishing
Jobshops
Capital
Equipment
Chemicals &
Consumables
Consult'g,
& Software


About/Contact  -  Privacy Policy  -  ©1995-2024 finishing.com, Pine Beach, New Jersey, USA  -  about "affil links"