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BOEING FINISH CODES Q&As


Q. I am a Quality Manager for an FAA certified Repair Station and manufacturing facility.

In our manufacturing area we have a print with a note to FINISH PER STF0180 and FINISH PER STF0352. These are McDonnell Douglas specifications that can be cross referenced to AMS or MIL STD but only Boeing has the originals with the cross-reference data.

Can anyone out there supply the cross reference data?

Risty Pepple
Quality Manager - Holland, Ohio
April 17, 2024






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Q. My company is manufacturing aircraft spares in accordance with drawings developed in the 60's and 70's. I see Boeing finish code PS362 in many places. Where can I find a copy of the spec?

Thank you very much!

Ben Feldman
manufacturer - Ashburn, Virginia
2004


Q. We have the same problem as this fellow. Could not find the response in the finishing.com letters. Is there an answer to this for the viewing public?

Albert J Rinaldo
- Perris, California
2005

Ed. note: Hello, Albert. This is a public forum not a private consulting service; so if anyone answers, the response will appear on this page just like your followup. Sorry, but it hasn't drawn an answer yet.

A. The Boeing Corporation as well as Lockheed have "citis" portal access to all specs and documents dealing with their products (besides ANSI and NAS specs). Call your Buyer at the respective aerospace division to gain access to the 'product standard' portion of their customer site.

Steven Harkins
- Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
2007


A. I have worked on a few Gov. jobs that calls for PS 362 , In ALL of them, the separate tech. data package stated to REPLACE PS-632 WITH ANODIZE PER MIL-A-8625 / MIL-PRF-8625 [on DLA] TY I OR II
See if you have a data package, the answer is probably there.

Happy to help -- Mike

Michel Chahade
- Mount Vernon, New York, USA
July 15, 2010


Q. Has anyone come up with the Boeing finish spec PS362?

Richard Taeger
- New London, Iowa, US
July 2, 2013


A. PS362:
VF-3.0 Chemical treatment per BAC 5719 or MIL-C-5541

VF-3.1 Chromic acid anodize per MIL-A-8625 [on DLA] Type I

VF-3.2 SULFURIC ACID ANODIZE PER MIL-A-8625 Type II

I hope this will help.

James Vincent
- Boise, Idaho, USA
February 20, 2015




Q. I have been looking for a Boeing finish code F-1.191 with very little success. I know it is some sort of plating. Can anyone help? Thanks so much.

Andrew Lauckner
precision products - Wayne, New Jersey
2007


simultaneous replies

A. Google found this reference (in a ca. 2004 document):

FINISH CODE F-1.191 DEFINED: CADMIUM PLATE
PER AMS AMSQQP416, TYPE I, CLASS 2. BAKE 3 HOURS
MINIMUM AT 375 ± 25 °F

Ken Vlach [deceased]
- Goleta, California
contributor of the year Finishing.com honored Ken for his countless carefully researched responses. He passed away May 14, 2015.
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A. Doing a web search I found this ...

"5.FINISH CODE F-1.191 DEFINED: CADMIUM PLATE
PER AMSQQP416, TYPE I, CLASS 2. BAKE 3 HOURS
MINIMUM AT 375 ± 25 °F"

Although I can't verify this is correct, it may be helpful?

Bill Grayson
Metal Finishing - San Jose, California, USA


thumbs up sign Thank you this was very helpful.
I have a small job shop just starting up.

Been machining for 36 + years

Dennis Dudley
- Columbia South Carolina
August 10, 2022




Q. Looking for Boeing Metal 4340 finish spec F-1001

Richard Taeger
Military supplier - New London, Iowa, US
June 24, 2013


? Can you confirm it is F-1001 and not P-1001? I do have a cross-reference for P-1001 but not F-1001.

blake kneedler
Blake Kneedler
Feather Hollow Eng. - Stockton, California


thumbs up sign Looks like it could be P-1001

Thanks.

Richard Taeger [returning]
- New London, Iowa, US


A. I have a cross-reference for P-1001. Here is the information:
High Impact Resistance Primer, Green, BAC, 452;
Catalyst 602;
DMS 2144 Comp A;
DHMS C4.18 Ty III, Cl A, Gr A;
BMS 10-79 Ty III, Cl A, Gr A /

blake kneedler
Blake Kneedler
Feather Hollow Eng. - Stockton, California




Boeing Vertol VF-3.0?

Q. I think this will be a tough one. I have a Boeing Vertol drawing that has a finish code
VF-3.0 + VF-1.1 and the part requiring the finish is a 2024-t3 aluminum bushing/sleeve.
Any help would be much appreciated and documentation to back it up would be even better.

Andrew Lauckner
machine shop employee - Wayne, New Jersey
January 16, 2008




Looking for Boeing Finish Code F-1003

Q. Can anyone tell me where to find an old Boeing Finish Code F-1003

Mike Gordon
Fairlane Tool - Fraser, Michigan
January 20, 2017


A. Boeing's Finish Codes are listed in D6-5000 Document.

Tom Slick (ed. note: caution, fictitious name)
- Long Beach, California USA
August 29, 2017

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Q. Good day everyone.
I am working on a nylon part that for the KC135.
The finish call out reads,F-19.52 + F-14-685
Can anyone tell me what this is, it is not listed in the D2-5000 spec.

John Fiedler
employee - Lake Forest California
October 12, 2017


A. Be careful with finish specs!!
D2-5000 is space, D6-5000 is commercial, and D8-5000 is military. If those specs are called out, your customer is required by Boeing to give you a copy.

J Bogart
- Corona, California USA
December 19, 2018




Q. Working on a part for Boeing and getting a little lost in Specs. The codes called out are CHEMICAL TREAT PER VF-3.0, PRIME PER VF-1.70, AND FINISH PER VF-1.80 (REF: BLACK COLOR NO.37038) EXCEPT AS NOTED PER FL1.

Any information is appreciated or any pointing in the right direction.

Will Carty
- Paintsville, Kentucky USA
January 15, 2018




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