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Electroplating Wastewater Treatment Q&A's, Problems & Solutions
Q. [We are] a company settled in Turkey-Istanbul in snap fasteners and buckles field looking for a proper water treatment for nickel salts and cyanide.
Any suggestions?
Thanking in advance.
- Turkey
1998
A. Nickel and Cyanide must be separated. Because Nickel-Cyanide complex is very difficult to break down. You can use two stage cyanide oxidation processes for cyanide waste. A conventional heavy metal precipitation using caustic soda ⇦liquid caustic soda in bulk on Amazon [affil link] works fine with Nickel bearing waste .
Lawrence Chiu- Hong Kong
1998
A. Hello Rifat. Here in the U.S., such a system would include a treatment step for destruction of cyanide by alkaline chlorination, a pH adjustment system for the nickel, and then separation of the precipitated solids with a clarifier. The sludges from the clarifier would be treated in a recessed plate filter press. That's certainly not the only way, but it's the most common approach. Good luck.
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
1998
Q. Killing Cyanide from silver plating baths?
We are using an electroless silver plating bath for our (small volume) production of PCBs containing 1 molar solution of sodium cyanide and 0.1 molar solution of silver nitrate.
Can anybody provide instructions of how to get rid of a few liters of such a used solution (containing also copper). As we produce instruments (pH-meters etc) we can easily control the conditions of the process.
Thanks
scientific instruments
1998
A. 1 Molar NaCN = 49 grams NaCN/liter = 6.5 ounces/ US gallon. Alkaline chlorination is NOT recommended for concentrated solutions because of dangerous side reactions like poisonous gases, and eruption. The reaction in dilute solutions is the following formula (reference, Graham's Electroplating Engineering Handbook [on
AbeBooks or
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, 3rd Edition, VanNostrand, New York).
2NaCN + 5 NaOCl + 2NaOH = 2Na2CO3 + 5NaCl + N2 + H2O
In electroplating wastewater, where alkaline chlorination has been used for many years, the cyanide concentration may be only a few hundred mg/liter and the rest of the components of the original solution have also been diluted. Bleach
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is added, with good mixing, to a permanent blue reaction to Potassium Iodide
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Whether your plating bath is proprietary or not, it may be worthwhile to reclaim the silver, and avoid a waste treatment job. Even if you have an exemption to waste treatment due to laboratory status, it is still not a good idea to dump cyanide down the drain.
Perhaps there is someone in your area who reclaims silver from medical film who could take the solution? I don't know if they still use cyanide in the process.
Tom Pullizzi
Falls Township, Pennsylvania
1997
Q. I have read about using hydrogen peroxide to treat cyanide.
Unfortunately not much information was given. If anyone knows of the correct process, please let me know.
Thanks.
Tech-Etch
1998
A. I believe that there may be several patents and/or proprietary processes on the subject. A literature search may give you some leads.
Tom Pullizzi
Falls Township, Pennsylvania
1998
A. Hello David. I believe that you will find this was originally called the "Kastone Process". This was a DuPont process, although I am not sure if they are still marketing it themselves. Still, it should be a good search term for you. Happy hunting.
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
1998
Q. Hello!
I need material about minimization of water consumption in the finishing industry for my thesis.
Thank you!
Universidade Federal de Santa Maria - Brasil - Santa Maria, RS, Brasil
2002
A. Hi Marta. Back in 1982 I wrote a pamphlet entitled "20 Ways to Reduce Water Usage in Plating Shops", and it's now in our on-line library.
Luck & Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2002
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Q. From history, my WWTP effluent could comply to Malaysia's limit of 1.0 mg/L for nickel. however, recently, the limit could not be met and nickel has been in the region of 1.3 - 1.8 mg/L. We are currently operating at pH 9.5 for to precipitate all heavy metals (Ni, Zn, Cu, Mn, Boron). FYI, my WWTP is servicing electroplating and paint shop wastewater. There were no changes in the process at WWTP and in the plant.
Afifcar assemblies - Kuala Lumpur, Selangor, Malaysia
2007
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A. A pH of 9.5 is a bit low for Ni.
Your best bet would be to add a bit of sulfide type precipitant, such as sodium sulfide, or dimethyldithiocarbamate. This would be a lot more forgiving than 'plain vanilla' hydroxide precipitation.
Dave Wichern
Consultant - The Bronx, New York
2007
A. Good afternoon:
You didn't mention whether the nickel present in the wastewater discharge is dissolved nickel or nickel bearing suspended solids which passed through your treatment system. I'll assume that its dissolved nickel that's causing your problems.
As a preventative measure, if you are using cyanide based solutions in your finishing operations, please make sure you are not accidentally mixing cyanide bearing wastewater and nickel bearing wastewater. Nickel-cyanide complex can be tough to waste treat.
If you don't have a problem with nickel-cyanide complex, then the sulfide or carbamate additions mentioned by David Wichern are a great idea. Just remember not to exceed the recommended dosage; use only enough to precipitate out the stubborn metals in solution. Carbamate compounds are toxic to marine wildlife.
- St Louis, Missouri
2007
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A. Not only that: if you use too much, it won't work as well. This is of particular concern with DTC, because getting rid of an excess is not so easy. You wind up with this unbreakable tea colored colloid. To break it, you need to add a bunch of ferrous or alum or something. It's a real pain in the neck.
That is why I always liked sodium sulfide. Easy to get rid of excess S2-, just blow air through it, or add some hypochlorite. Unfortunately, NaS2 has some OSHA issues associated with it that make people not want to have it in the plant.
Dave Wichern
Consultant - The Bronx, New York
2007
2007
A. Before deciding that DTC is preferable to sodium sulfide or simple lime precipitation, readers should see:
http://www.state.in.us/idem/your_environment/wrcac/whiteriver/complaint/complaint.pdf
opinion It describes a pollution catastrophe -- 187 tons of fish killed in the White River in Indiana due to a gross, excessive discharge of DTC from an electroplating plant. As far as I can determine, this was by far the worst pollution incident ever caused by an American electroplating plant ... and ironically it was not from an electroplating waste but from a treatment chemical nobody wants but which was required to meet over-the-top discharge standards. An interpretation which probably resonates with platers is that if you are relentlessly pressured to use incredibly powerful toxins like DTC in pursuit of that meaningless last fraction of a milligram of metal, you open the door for accidents that are far more injurious. Ted Mooney, P.E. Striving to live Aloha finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey ---- |
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A. In addition to environmental considerations, a practical problem often occurs in lowering [Ni] using DTC or soluble sulfide: As the DTC lowers [Ni] and other metal concentrations, previously precipitated hydroxides such as Ni(OH)2 dissolve toward maintaining their equilibrium Ni, Cu, Zn, etc. solubilities. One may end up using very large amounts of DTC precipitating all metals. Hence, precipitation with DTC or soluble sulfide should only be used as a 'polishing' treatment on filter press effluent water. In which case, it's easier to do a 2-stage pH precipitation, removing most metals at pH 8.5 and residual Ni, Zn, etc. at pH 10.5.
Possibly, Ni-containing waste waters can be segregated and treated separately.
- Goleta, California
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2007
A. Dave: Good point about sulfide, and thanks for it. sulfide is a much stronger precipitant than hydroxide. But I've done a lot of jar testing and found it not as effective as DTC at approaching zero concentration of metals.
Ken: I totally agree that we shouldn't use DTC in the first stage of a wastewater treatment system, and should reserve its use (if used at all) for segregated polishing of what's left after hydroxide precipitation. But I don't think much precipitation happens at pH 8.5; about the only thing that comes out in many shops at that pH is iron.
I think the right approach was developed by Dr. Lancy before the EPA even existed: hold the pH low or make it low; add ferric chloride
⇦ this on
eBay or
Amazon [affil links] or aluminum sulphate as a co-precipitant/chelate breaker; raise the pH to 10.5; filter or clarify; reduce the pH to acceptable discharge point. If this doesn't reduce the contaminants to a low enough level to comply with the law, change the process chemistry or change the law because the treatment regimen was right -- the use of DTC is a dangerous step in the wrong direction :-)
The above assumes, of course, that we consider end-of-pipe treatment of "mixed metals" satisfactory; and that premise should be continually reexamined as times change. Just because we used to mix them doesn't necessarily mean we should continue to.
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2007
A. Malaysia in particular has a tough go from a discharge standard, as they are usually put into categorical standards known as Malaysia a or Malaysia b, both of which exist based on WHO water standards. Usually, they do not have the luxury of a secondary or tertiary POTW, so the use of DTC is out - they don't even set limits on it (but there are limits!) Sulfide works, however you also have sulfide standards for discharge, as well as chlorine (for those of you that want to use a little hypo to destroy the sulfide). Lastly, with all this treatment, there is (or at least was) a TDS limit, so adding a raft of chemicals to treat this is probably not the panacea that it may be here.
You didn't mention what type of nickel it was - the originating bath, so the final treatment technique could be hard to find. If its chelated at all - you cannot treat it - even with Doc's method, unless you get rid of the chelator, or tie it up. Iron does that, but there are sulphate and chloride discharge standards to consider as well. Let's not forget, while KL is a BIG city, its treatment works are not what they are here -- and unlike people here that depend on well or tap water to live. There are still many many people that live by the rivers there -- washing, drinking, existing etc. That's why the WHO standards are there. They don't have the benefit of chlorination at every point.
I might suggest ion exchange as an alternate, depending on the origination of the nickel and the form, either on a point of use basis, or end of pipe if necessary, but controlling it POU is a heck of a lot easier and more efficient -- and cost effective. It can usually easily get well below the discharge point before the stream is commingled with the effluent, and once mixed, it could be virtually undetectable in the final outfall.
Tom Baker
wastewater treatment specialist - Warminster, Pennsylvania
2007
Thanks, Tom, for reminding us that the question was about a discharge situation in Malaysia, not here, and that others don't live the same way we do :-)
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2007
A. It is true that there are discharge standards for sulfide - I operated under a pretty tough one (0.5 mg/l, Santa Clara, CA) for some years. Either because I used sodium sulfide in conjunction with ferrous sulfate
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Amazon [affil links] , because I was treating fairly small batches (2,000 - 3,000 gallons) or because the sulfide ion is so easily oxidized, I never had a problem with it. I used to batch treat, and I'd add many pounds of sodium sulfide to batches. I never had to treat for residual sulfide with hypo or peroxide or anything else. Just the O2 diffusing into the treated water through the surface took care of any excess. The treated decant ... well, I wouldn't put it up against Chanel #5 in a Sweet Smelling Derby, but it didn't reek of H2S, either.
Tom is, of course, correct in saying that the best solution to the problem is POU control - don't make the problem in the first place! That is perhaps the wisest word yet.
Dave Wichern
Consultant - The Bronx, New York
2007
A. Dear Sirs,
I was browsing the Internet in search for information for a presentation on electroplating effluent treatment when I happened to find your discussion on nickel problems.
I was a little surprised to see that the Degussa trimercapto-s-triazine, marketed as TMT 15, was not mentioned at all. TMT 15 should solve the problem easily and without toxicity.
Best regards,
- Nummela, Uusimaa, Finland
2007
Thanks, Esko, you may be right! It's supposedly non-toxic and environmentally safe. But I'm no biochemist and don't pretend to know enough about the potential toxicity or lack of potential toxicity of that compound to hold an opinion on it.
Luck & Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
A. I routinely get under 1 ppm nickel but my method may not be applicable to your waste plant. I precipitate at pH 10.5 or 11 first, allow to settle, correct the pH and then discharge. I can do this because I have reduced the quantity of water used so much that I have days between discharges.
Nick Clatworthy- Whitstable, Kent, UK
2007
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