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Sound technical content, curated with aloha by
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, NJ
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Is zinc cabinet hardware rust-proof?




Q. I sell cabinet hardware designed for indoor use (kitchen cabinets), but received an inquiry for a large order that will be used outdoors. Will a zinc handle tolerate outdoor conditions, or will it eventually rust? Perhaps it will just tarnish? Appreciate your help!

Todd Gellman
cabinet hardware - Santa Cruz, Calif, USA
2006


A. It will not rust because only iron/steel can rust. But it probably won't be satisfactory either; it will corrode badly. It must have a corrosion-proof finish, whether plated or powder coated.

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey



2006

A. I would suggest Electroless Nickel plating the parts. Very corrosion resistant and if you use a low to mid phos it has a very pretty finish as well..

Ryan Cook
Ryan Cook
Toccoa, Georgia
2006



2006

Q. Ted, can you comment on the difference between your prognosis of rapid failure of zinc handles outdoors, and the demonstrated decades of service given by the zinc coating on galvanised steel outdoors, please?

There's a dramatic difference there, and I'm wondering why.

Bill Reynolds
Bill Reynolds [deceased]
consultant metallurgist - Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
We sadly relate the news that Bill passed away on Jan. 29, 2010.




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That is an excellent follow-up, Bill, and I wish I could answer it :-)

Part of it is expectations; we expect more beauty from the finishes on cabinet handles than from the finishes on power line towers. With competitive finishes of brass plus lacquer, stainless steel, brushed nickel, PVD lifetime finishes, etc., available for cabinet handles, nobody is going to accept the white rust and corrosion pits of uncoated zinc handles.

I acknowledge that galvanizing is an outstanding coating. I also know that an anodized zinc diecasting is exceptionally corrosion resistant (although very little commercial anodizing of zinc is done, perhaps because the dangerously high voltages are incompatible with the normal procedures in plating shops).

But any time I've seen bare zinc diecastings become exposed to outdoor conditions -- such as when the plating or powder coating peels off of a piece that was improperly prepared in some way -- ugly corrosion seems to arise quickly: white deposits that look like crusted salt, deep pits that look like miniature volcanos, etc. I probably should have prefaced it that this has simply been my observation; that's all I was going by, and I don't know the explanation.

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2006



A. The purpose of Zinc IS to Corrode... It is a sacrificial metal.

Dave Kinghorn
Dave Kinghorn
Chemical Engineer
SUNNYvale, California

2006



2006

A. Yes, Dave, it is - that's how it works. But the layer of zinc on galvanized or zinc plated steel takes decades to corrode away, which is a very different time scale from the rate of corrosion of solid zinc items, which was the original query.

I'm not wondering why the zinc corrodes - I'm wondering why solid zinc items corrode orders of magnitude faster than galvanized. I'd never thought of it before, now it's annoying me so I'll see if I can find out.

Bill Reynolds
Bill Reynolds [deceased]
consultant metallurgist - Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
We sadly relate the news that Bill passed away on Jan. 29, 2010.




thumbs up sign I don't think Dave was dis'ing your reply, Bill, but responding to the original inquirer that he can't make things for outdoor exposure out of plain zinc because it's intended to corrode.

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2006



simultaneous replies

A. The zinc casting process, due to its rather slow cooling rate, produces a coarse grain structure and allows segregation of aluminum, lead and other impurities to the grain boundaries which promote intergranular attack. Galvanizing with its fast freezing of the molten zinc, produces a very fine and uniform microstructure that shows a natural protecting graded transition from an almost pure zinc layer outside to an iron rich zinc alloy close to the steel interface.

Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico
2006


A. I think that the difference is a lower quality zinc used in castings. Also, most casting have a lot of porosity which is an ideal place to hold moisture or sweat or?

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida
2006


A. Perhaps the difference in corrosion rates is because when zinc is used as a sacrificial anode the oxidative reaction is being driven by a potential difference between it and the substrate it is protecting. This will result in a more tenacious oxide layer being formed, which will be a self limiting corrosion protection reaction, as once the oxide is formed, it will help stop further attack since it is continuous. If no potential is applied, the resulting oxide is due purely to a chemical reaction that relies on the exposure of metal to the atmosphere. The resulting layer is therefore much less tenacious and less protecting.

trevor crichton
Trevor Crichton
R&D practical scientist
Chesham, Bucks, UK
2006


thumbs up sign I just wanted to thank everyone that responded-thank you! Happy Holidays!

Todd Gellman [returning]
- Santa Cruz, California, USA
2006


A. Diecast zinc corrodes quickly because of its composition of multiple elements. The dissimilar metals create little batteries between the grains, and elements (given aluminum's tenacious oxide coating) so it is primarily galvanic corrosion.

The porosity certainly doesn't help, however hot dipped galvanize, or electroplated galvanize are both typically pure zinc, so there isn't any potential difference (voltage) between its own grains.

A house divided against itself, so to speak.

Michael Simon
Arm Chair Engineer! - Burning River, Ohio, USA
May 20, 2017




Q. We are building a home at the beach on the Pacific Ocean. I ordered cabinet pulls and knobs from Lowes that are made of plated Zinc and finished in Satin Nickel. They are not expensive and have a 1 year warranty. Should I be concerned about rust and corrosion? If so, do you recommend any more durable brands?

Sheila Golden
- Long Beach, California USA
December 18, 2017


A. Hi Sheila. If the home is climate controlled, the interior will probably not be laden with salt air. Such handles are probably okay for interior use.

We don't compare brands here, but there are more expensive materials of construction and more exotic designs. If money is no object, sabaxter.com offers fabulous cabinet hardware, but it is surely way out of my price range :-)

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
December 2017


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