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Finding out a weight needed to get 1mg N/L
2006
Hey, I'm doing my 3rd year dissertation project at university and need to know the following information to get started on making up the solutions. This is for a biology project monitoring competition between aquatic plants. (I did take Chemistry A-level... but it was a long time ago!). Thank you!
I need to make a 1 mgN/L, 10 mgN/L and 100 mgN/L solutions using tap water and sodium phosphate.
The volume I need to make of each is 500 ml.
I have calculated the relative atomic mass (NH4NO3) as 98 (?). I know it may involve the equations n=m/Mr and conc=weight/volume..... but pretty clueless from there. Thank you!
Student - Liverpool, UK
2006
Some uncertainty with the units & identity of the chemical.
Do you wish to make solutions of 1 milligram/Liter, etc. or perhaps 1 milliNormal (0.001 N), etc.?
Since it is difficult to weigh small amounts accurately, the usual technique is to prepare a more concentrated solution, say 1.000 g/L, and make stepwise dilutions using pipets and volumetric flasks.
Does sodium phosphate perhaps mean trisodium phosphate
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dodecahydrate, Na3PO4.12H2O (FW = (380.124)? Check the bottle label for both formula and formula weight. There are also mono- and disodium phosphates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_phosphate
The formula weight of ammonium nitrate, NH4NO3, is 80.043. Relevant?
If you need quick answers, perhaps find a chemistry student.
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