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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
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Bleach and C.L.R. accidentally mixed

Quickstart:
     Bleach bottles warn us not to mix it with other materials -- here's the main issue: Bleach is actually chlorine gas dissolved in water. To stay dissolved, the solution is made highly alkaline; otherwise the chlorine gas comes pouring out into the air.
     Mixing bleach with any acid (CLR, Lime Away, pool acid, strong vinegar, etc.) can neutralize that alkali, and the air will fill with choking chlorine gas.


thumbs down sign I did it and it was a BIG mistake. I was wearing a mask. But within seconds I could feel my lungs burning. Quickly opened windows and put on a fan. I feel somewhat better now an hour later.

pk kelleher
- Westchester, New York
February 26, 2023


thumbsdown I have done this by accident as well. And basically I created chlorine gas which I blasted into my lungs when I turned scalding hot water into the sink of chemicals. It was so bad that I immediately had an asthma attack and my dogs and cats started sneezing and coughing. I immediately opened the windows and turned the fans on to try and clear out the fumes. However for the next week I suffered with an upper respiratory infection and needed my rescue inhaler every few hours and a round of antibiotics. I definitely learned a hard lesson on the dangers of household chemicals and to always VENTILATE!!!

Andrea
- Colorado
September 20, 2024

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Q. I accidentally mixed bleach bleach/sodium hypochlorite in bulk on eBay or Amazon [affil links] with C.L.R. this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] and I realized this can't be good, I did breathe some in and was wondering what my concerns should be?

Saverio Portolesi
Hamilton, Ont, Canada
2006


A. If you feel fine, I think your first concern should be to not do it again, and to tell family and friends not to do it, Saverio. If you want to go to the doctor about it, do so. If I felt fine I probably wouldn't go to the doctor, but that's just the personal philosophy of an individual who you never met and might not trust if you did; it's not medical advice. Clearly at least a phone call to the doctor's office is the prudent thing.

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Q. Hey, I just did the same thing and now my throat is sore. As soon as they mixed my sinuses were flooded with a burning sensation. Did the feeling go away on its own or are you still suffering? I mean, WOW, I thought I was under a biological weapons attack or something; the second they mixed I was completely overwhelmed with a burning sensation in my throat, lungs, and nose. Did things work out for you? My throat doesn't feel right and I don't have money for doctors. Lesson learned though. Anyway, please post an update as to what happened. Thanks.

Adam Smith
NYC, New York
January 5, 2008


thumbs down signPlease don't try to judge your medical situation by the effects of the fumes on someone else, Adam; their body is not only different but they also may have received a far smaller dose. Chlorine gas and OCl-'s are extremely bad for you, and you clearly should call your doctor.

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Q. So if my daughter mixed these while cleaning and her side hurts when breathing...
... is there something to do at home to counteract the chemical?

Deborah Eldred
Mebane North Carolina
June 30, 2015


A. Hi Deborah. The bleach or C.L.R. bottle might have "emergency" procedures but, even if so, those are designed to immediately counteract the action of the chemical in the first few seconds or minutes, not to treat the patient. Neither readers here nor preprinted instructions can offer medical advice. You should definitely call your doctor's office and let the nurse who answers the phone tell you whether the doctor wants to see her or not. Best of luck.

Regards,

ted_yosem
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Did constant bleach and dog urine exposure cause my heart attack?

Q. I clean at a grooming shop. Breathe bleach and dog urine every day. They do not provide breathing mask. Worked there for three years. Had a heart attack. Could that situation have caused the heart attack?

Jack Black
Sacramento California
November 20, 2017

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A. Hi "Jack". Best of luck towards a speedy, permanent recovery.

Your health is a subject to discuss with a doctor whether or not you are planning to continue on the job, and with a personal injury attorney if you're looking to assign blame. The first question that either will probably ask is whether you smoke, if your weight is within guidelines, whether you exercise regularly, if you track your blood pressure & cholesterol, whether the attack happened at work or home, etc.

I doubt that anyone will be able to quote you actual studies on the relationship between dog urine and heart attacks, or bleach and heart attacks, or dog urine plus bleach, plus or minus dog hair plus or minus shampoo, etc. ... But clearly we humans have known for millennia that constant breathing of foul air is bad for us.

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey


A. Hello Jack,
Dog urine commonly contains a large amount of ammonia this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] and if the vapors mix with bleach vapors nasty and dangerous compounds can be produced. As a result, seizures, headaches and other effects such as nausea have been observed. I hope you get better soon and I'd recommend air exchange and improved ventilation. If you can open a couple of windows and invest in a powerful fan or two it may help.

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Blake Kneedler
Feather Hollow Eng. - Stockton, California



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