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Problems and Issues Hard Anodizing of 7075 Aluminum




Q. Does anyone have any advice on hardcoating 7075 alloy aluminum? We hardcoat 1" dia rings at 40 F, 18% sulfuric acid, with a proprietary hardcoat additive. Occasionally the parts will burn in the hardcoat tank ( applying .002 thick hardcoat dyed black. I suspect the alloy is the problem since we have little problem with other customers parts of other alloys. The parts are being racked on 6000 series fixtures. Have tried ramping up the current slowly at the beginning of the hardcoat cycle with some success. Would a rack made of the same alloy as the parts help? Any other ideas? Thank you.

Keith Rosenblum

1998



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A. Keith

Contrary to what you may have heard, 7075 alloy is not that difficult to hardcoat.

Charlie Grubbs

1998


A. To hardcoat 7075, try running the bath colder (we run at 14 °F). Also, make sure you have adequate agitation in the tank. After ramp, your voltage should be approx. 21V (not to exceed 30V).

Henry Wolff

1998



December 9, 2021

Keith. Parts I worked with in industry the anodizer said about.001" per side. Most of what I worked on had to be post finished or polished. The anodizing was like flat paint. It was lapped or finished as required. In effect a very expensive process due to final fit at assembly.

What little I had done on racers was bout the same. It was a very hard surface but worked well. At least the coater or anodizing company was consistent. You could machine parts undersize to allow for it and use as is if possible. There are other durable coatings now that are just about as wear resistant and hard. Ace pistons have this and it takes some bad things happening in the motors to see scuffing now days.

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Hardcoating 7075 Aluminum Alloy

Q. I have a problem with coating hard anodizing on aluminum alloy 7075: the coating looks good when the anodizing is complete. The problem was when the coating needed to be machined down to blueprint size the coating started to peel off as if the coating didn't bond to the aluminum. I need to know if aluminum alloy 7075 can be hard anodized?

Albert Romero Jr

2002


A. Done all the time! One customer of ours routinely hardcoats 1/2 mil over size and post anodize hones parts to size. Cylinders are 7075 and since they're for aerospace industry, quality is paramount. They don't peel or crack!

milt stevenson jr.
Milt Stevenson, Jr.
Syracuse, New York
2002




Q. I have been having trouble Hard Anodizing 7075 alum, I seem to look great while the parts are wet but after drying the parts look very dusty. The temperature in the anodize tank is 45 °F, volts 25 to 30, time 60 mins.
What's my problem ?

Richard Harrison

2006



simultaneous replies

A. Hardcoat is done by AMPS per SQUARE FOOT, typically 36 a.s.f. The power must be ramped slowly and the voltage steadily increased until a set voltage, usually typical thickness is achieved at a set terminal voltage - 2 mils at 70 volts, etc. The ramp and characteristic voltage/thickness relationship is highly alloy dependent and 7075 is not one of the easier alloys to hardcoat - the dustiness sounds like early onset of burning. Lastly, 45 °F is rather high for hardcoat - try to get it down to 32 °F.

milt stevenson jr.
Milt Stevenson, Jr.
Syracuse, New York
2006



2006

A. Tell us more. Surface Prep, Free Acid, Dissolved Aluminum, racking, thickness of part, current density, ramp time to c.d...

Some 7075,depending on heat treatment at the mill or subsequent heat treatment, may have precipitated the zinc into the grain boundaries, then when you anodized, it pulled out (dissolved (unplated) like the anode in a zinc plating tank).

robert probert
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2006

A. It's relatively easy to hard anodize 7075. These seem like Type II conditions. Perhaps too high a temperature, insufficient agitation for parts cooling, improper current density (e.g., from excessive initial & inadequate final voltages)... Please describe the following:
Electrolyte.
Agitation.
Current density.
Voltage (initial voltage & ramp rate).
Racking.
Thin sheet or any unusual geometry.
Anode-to-cathode area ratio.
Desired and actual anodize thickness.

Ken Vlach [deceased]
- Goleta, California

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A. It is powdery,right?
if possible, adjust to bath temperature: -3 °C; current density: 32A/ft^2

John Hu

2006



A. Let's See ... If the coating is of a gold-ish color and the dusty like effect is of the alloy and is correct. Remember that the color of the hardcoat is due to the alloy materials.

Chris Snyder

2006



A. It is rather easy to hard coat 7075 we use a bath at 46 °F; we use 35 ASF 45 min and get 2 mil we do use an additive and lots of air agitation.

Steve Tanner

2006


A. Your tank is running too hot! Try at 36 degrees and high agitation. Make sure you have tight contact on racks. Also use aluminum racks not titanium racks. Sometimes you have a better finish and better contact.

James Kokiel

January 21, 2017




Hard anodizing of 7055 aluminum alloy

Does anyone have any experience in hard anodize on alloy 7055 ?

Thanks

PHIL RIDLEY

August 13, 2014


A. Apparently 7055 is not as commonly anodized as 7075 :-)

We have more than a dozen threads on this site about hard anodizing of 7075, but I'm not sure if they're highly relevant or totally irrelevant to your issues with 7055. What is your situation?

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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August 2014




Sodium Sulfonate Additive for increased corrosion resistance of anodized aluminum

Q. I am undertaking a research on anodization of 7075 aluminium alloy. Actually I want to use sulfuric acid anodization with organic acid additives. I don't know which of the sodium sulfonates to use as additive. Is it also possible to use more than one additive in the anodization? The research is basically to improve corrosion resistance of the alloy.

Abdullahi Mohammed

August 29, 2015



August 2015

? Hi Abdullahi. What prior research or experience points to this as a possible route to improved corrosion resistance? Thanks.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
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Q. I have anodized 7075 and it has gone green. Any ideas on why?

David Catchpole

November 2, 2015



?? No idea on why without more information.

Was the part dyed?

Sealing medium?

Coating thickness?

Environmental conditions (lighting conditions inside?, outdoor exposure?, temperatures?, etc.) part was exposed to after anodizing, and for how long?

Marc Green
Marc Green
anodizer - Boise, Idaho
November 8, 2015




Q. HAS ANYONE HAD PROBLEMS HARD ANODIZING 7050 MATERIAL? I GET WHITE patches THROUGHOUT THE PARTS LITERALLY, white parts. ANYONE?

SONIA BALCAZAR

September 9, 2016



A. Hello Ms. Balcazar,
Photos of the patches showing their shape, orientation relative to sharp edges or rack points, smeariness of margins, etc. would help.
When are the marks visible? What is the first process step that you can see them?
Also without any information whatsoever on your operating conditions and process steps, any answer the community might have will be no more than a guess.
Please provide some basic information to help us help you.

rachel_mackintosh
Rachel Mackintosh
lab rat - Greenfield, Vermont
October 30, 2018


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