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I need to rust spring steel on purpose
I work for a marking and identification company. I need to rust pieces of finished spring steel. We make printing dies to imprint on sparkplugs. We adhere a neoprene rubber die with glue to pieces of spring steel and have found over the years that rusting the steel first allows for a stronger, longer lasting bond. Our current method for rusting the spring steel takes approximately 3 weeks, and we really need to speed up the process, if possible, to a week or less. Currently we soak the steel pieces in water and liquid dish soap, changing the water every couple of days, for 2 weeks to remove the oil on the steel. Then we lay out the steel on newsprint and spray with water until we get the acceptable amount of rust, approximately 1 week. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Pete LamoureuxMarking and Identification specialists - Farmington Hills, MI, USA
2005
I'm not sure that if you accelerated the process that the surface would exhibit the same adhesion that you achieve from your present process. But steel can be "rusted" nearly instantly by a process called black oxiding. My understanding, though, is that brass plating is the best treatment of steel to get rubber to adhere.
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2005
2005
My guess is that you need the surface roughness for the adhesion.
An alternative might be to soap and hot water clean, rinse, clean with Easy-Off oven cleaner
⇦ this on
eBay or
Amazon [affil links] , rinse and dry.
Abrasive blast (lightly) with 400 grit aluminum oxide, wash and dry.
You can get spot blaster for a few dollars now If you have an air compressor
[adv: air compressors on
eBay
or
Amazon [affil links] which would work quite well.
- Navarre, Florida
Try to use bleach ⇦ bleach/sodium hypochlorite in bulk on eBay or Amazon [affil links] and vinegar ⇦in bulk on eBay or Amazon [affil links] mixed together. (In a well ventilated area) Apply with an old paintbrush or spray bottle or just dip the steel in it. This will oxidize steel in a flash... Good luck
Craig Gilbreath- Waco, Texas
2007
2007
Let's emphasize that "well ventilated" again, Craig . . . as in maybe only do it outdoors and upwind on a very windy day?
The reason the mixture oxidizes steel in a flash is that the vinegar, being an acid, neutralizes the caustic soda ⇦liquid caustic soda in bulk on Amazon [affil link] in the bleach which was holding the chlorine gas in solution, so that it can no longer hold it. The result of the mixing is a release of copious volumes of highly oxidizing, toxic, poisonous chlorine gas from the bleach. This is precisely what those warning labels on the bleach warn you not to do :-)
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Have you tried dipping it into normal car battery acid ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] . After dipping, just leave it exposed to the elements. Will be well rusted within about 3 days.
Charl Marais- Johannesburg. South Africa
January 28, 2008
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