No passwords, No popups, No AI, No cost:
we earn from your affiliate purchases

Home /
T.O.C.
Fun
FAQs
Good
Books
Ref.
Libr.
Adver-
tise
Help
Wanted
Current
Q&A's
Site 🔍
Search
ted_yosem
Sound technical content, curated with aloha by
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, NJ
finishing.com -- The Home Page of the Finishing Industry


  pub
  The authoritative public forum
  for Metal Finishing since 1989

-----

Chemical Film, Mil-C-5541, on Aluminum-Vacuum Systems




2005

I recently used chromate conversion aluminum per MIL-C-5541 on a vacuum system. When I disassembled the vacuum the chem film had changed appearance from dull to bright yellow. I have never seen chem film coatings change color under any circumstances-this is my first experience with it in a vacuum. Any ideas as to what is going on here? Can furnish a picture:

35985Thanks!

Bill Pinzon
aerospace systems - Greenlawn, New York



Hi Bill,

On occasion we vacuum impregnate aluminium castings after they have been chem filmed, I can't say I have ever noticed any brightening of the conversion coating. However I have had some nickel-plated assemblies which exhibited some light tarnishing. After environmental testing at high vacuum these assemblies came out bright and shiny. You may be getting a similar effect, i.e., something is being removed from the surface during vacuum.

As an idea of the top of my head, follow a component through the conversion process and immediately after the final rinse lightly run your finger over the surface. Check to see if there is a thin film of smut. It may be this that is being removed giving the appearance of a brighter coating.

I have had similar experiences with castings were the chem film seemed to have taken fine to the metal but a thin film of smut was left on the surface making the coating look 'dirty'. I ultrasonic cleaned these parts and the chem film did indeed look brighter / cleaner.

If this is the case check your treatment line for contamination, old de oxidiser etc etc. It's also worth checking the component manufacturing processes, for instance the problem I encountered was due to contamination from a blasting process.

Richard Mosley
- North Yorkshire, UK
2005




(No "dead threads" here! If this page isn't currently on the Hotline your Q, A, or Comment will restore it)

Q, A, or Comment on THIS thread -or- Start a NEW Thread

Disclaimer: It's not possible to fully diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations might be harmful.

If you are seeking a product or service related to metal finishing, please check these Directories:

Finishing
Jobshops
Capital
Equipment
Chemicals &
Consumables
Consult'g,
& Software


About/Contact  -  Privacy Policy  -  ©1995-2024 finishing.com, Pine Beach, New Jersey, USA  -  about "affil links"