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Will distilled water conduct electricity?




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Q. Why does water conduct electricity and other objects do not?

Chris H [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]
student - Elkridge, Maryland
January 3, 2009


Hi, Chris. Please express your question in terms of what has already been said on this page, rather than starting over. But pure water does not conduct electricity and many other objects do, so now you have two reasons to rephrase it :-)    Good luck.

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January 10, 2009



Q. I am a 6th grader doing a science project on making a light bulb light up with distilled water and other substances. I have about tried everything but my light bulb won't turn on. What are some good substances I should try?

Casie P [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]
Student - El Paso, Texas
January 13, 2009


Hi, Casie. No liquid will conduct electricity anywhere near as well as copper wire, so it is possible that your bulb is too big or your batteries too small. But try very salty water and, instead of just putting two wires in it, attach sheets of aluminum foil to them as Jeromy from Bellevue, Washington described. Good luck.

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Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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January 14, 2009


Q. If pure water does not conduct electricity, why do I still need to be careful about electricity near water?

grade 12 student

Sara B [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]
student - Calgary, Canada
February 17, 2009


A. Hi, Sara. Because you are unlikely to find "pure" water and, even if you did, whatever went into the water, whether it be you and or some electrical device, will immediately render the water impure. Saying that pure water doesn't conduct electricity is something for science class not for real life.

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Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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February 17, 2009



Q. Our third grader is preparing a science fair project and he wants to focus on batteries and what conducts electricity best. He was going to focus on various random liquids from vinegar in bulk on eBay or Amazon [affil links] to salted water. But we wonder if it might be more interesting for him to do the project focusing on different types of salt water - homemade salt water, ocean salt water, tropical fish saltwater, Clorox that has converted to salt (does it really?)...and so on. Do you have any thoughts on this approach? Thanks so much from all of here.

Susie Kher
student's parent - Sammamish, Washington
March 2, 2009



A. Hi, Susie. Table salt is sodium chloride. Sea salt is largely sodium chloride (NaCl) but will contain traces of other salts, as will aquarium salt. Bleach (NaOCl) is not salt, although you may be right that it can be converted to salt.

I think you are on the right track of trying to search for some relationship rather than just measuring the conductivity of a dozen different things with no organizing principle, but I'd go further. I think the best approach would be to measure the conductivity with varying amounts of sodium chloride added to the water, and graphing the relationship. You can start with distilled water and go all the way from a very tiny pinch of salt in distilled water to a thick paste of salt and water. Hopefully the conductivity vs. the concentration will produce a nice graph that offers some insights. (For example, you may find that the conductivity tops out early on and additional salt has no effect).

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Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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March 4, 2009


A. Hi,
I am doing some research on the internet tonight and I stumbled on this website. First, I would like to say the kids on this page are smarter than the kids I knew when I was their age. Secondly, I want to let everyone know that under certain conditions, electricity can pass through any point in space without any medium! For most practical applications this is of no concern but even the conductivity of air is important when it comes to lightning. This phenomena is governed by the permittivity of free space. Materials multiply this effect by their relative permittivity.

Wilburn Whittington
- Starkville, Mississippi
September 17, 2009



Q. How much plain table salt do I need to add to a gallon of distilled water to give it a pH of 7.2?

Sela Randazzo
- Sacramento, California
February 10, 2010


Hi, Sela. pH is a measure of hydrogen ion concentration. Plain table salt is NaCl. Why would you expect that adding Na and Cl would affect the amount of hydrogen ion? Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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February 19, 2010



! I use triple distilled water (made for injections and medicinal use) to make my own colloidal silver.

I have 3 x 9v batteries in series and run a wire from pos. and neg. to pure silver wires immersed at least an inch apart in the water.

The voltage is 27 volts with a 33k ohm resistor in line, the current runs at below 1 milliamp, which is tiny.

When the system starts off the multimeter reads just over 2 volts current traveling between the silver wires. If water was not a conductor then this would not be possible.

Simon Newton
- Brighton, U.K.
March 10, 2010


Hi, Simon.

Voltage is not a measure of the electrical current that is flowing, it is a measure of electrical "pressure".

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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Q. In salt water, is there any data describing how far an electric current would travel? The (admittedly odd) hypothetical application would be: could you use electricity to defend yourself as a diver in salt water?

Thank you!

John Ludwick
- Indianapolis, Indiana, USA
April 1, 2010


November 14, 2010

A. Well here I am looking up things for an experiment that I just completed in school and I can't believe some of these answers.

I am in grade 9 and I only just did a prac assignment about the salinity level in water and if the level affects the conductivity (electrical current passing through).

We had a beaker of distilled water in a beaker which was attached to a conductivity probe (a device that lets the electricity pass through the water), wires and alligator hooks attaching each end to an ammeter and a variable power supply (battery) then attaching these all together. The conductivity probe had a light on it so we could tell if the current passed through.

We tested this experiment with 6 volts to be safe. The distilled water wouldn't conduct the electricity and we knew this because we took out the probe/water from the circuit and the ammeter reading shot up to 10. Next we changed the bulb to see if it had blown. Still no luck. Then we changed the distilled water to normal room temperature tap water. This didn't work whether so we had to go with that our control test didn't really work.
We added 1 then 2 then 3 tsp of salt and each one came up with a reading on the ammeter, increasing each time. If you want to know more, I'll send you my prac report complete with discussion, I need to finish it first though. Like now. I should be finishing it now.. due tomorrow.. yea... I'm gonna do that now :P

Hope this helped :D
Ella <3

Michaela C [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]
- Brisbane, Queesland, Australia


Is it not correct that the current is not actually passing through the liquid but in fact the Na ions are releasing an electron and the Cl ions are taking an electron. There is no actual handoff between the Na and Cl in the liquid. As such, once all the Na and Cl ions have become neutralized, the solution will no longer conduct current. In essence the ions are converted or used up in the process and cease to be ions. At that point, unless additional salt is added, the current flow will cease.

Doug Peebles
- Florida
January 18, 2011


Hi, Doug.

Thanks for joining into the conversation. But, unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying, I don't believe it's accurate. Similar solutions of salts are used in electroplating baths where the salt stays dissolved and conductive for decades. Sodium is far too active a metal, far too anxious to ionize, for us to be able to convert it to sodium metal simply by making an electron available at the cathode.

When NaCl is dissolved into water, it does ionize into Na+ ions and Cl- ions.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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January 18, 2011


A. Would it not be far more accurate to always state that distilled water is a very poor conductor of electricity? Rather than the absolute statement that distilled water is not a conductor of electricity. I say this because although distilled water acts more as a resistor than a conductor at certain low voltages, it can act as a conductor with a greater voltage. Therefore an absolute claim does not apply.

Jonathan Cook
- Apple Valley, California, USA
April 20, 2011



Q. My uncle works in a foundry and he said that there are 3-phase electric lines (non-insulated) running through a water tank. He said that it appears that they are using regular (not distilled) water. I assume this is meant to cool the lines. How does this not short out the system?

Michael Cooper
- Lexington Park, Maryland, USA
May 1, 2011


Hi, Michael. I'm not familiar with the application your uncle is speaking of, but the coolant in some similar applications is oil rather than water. But you could estimate the usual resistance of water and the dimensions and spacing of the wires, and calculate the approximate power consumption due to this partial shorting out.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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May 2, 2011



Q. My son is working on his science project and we are using an ohm meter with probes placed 2 cm apart. We found that filtered water has a high resistance and water with marine salt added has a much lower resistance.

When we used filtered water near boiling the resistance was very high and chilled (38 °F) filtered water had a lower resistance.

Chilled salt water (1.25 SG) had the lowest resistance readings, 0.3 ohms.

Can anyone explain why temperature has this effect?

Tom Marcinek
- El Dorado Hills, California
May 1, 2011


A. Hi, Tom. I can't explain it because I believe your data is unfortunately incorrect. The resistivity of water and most fluids decreases with increasing temperature.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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May 2, 2011



Q. I am doing a science project about the conductivity of water. All I want to know is how can the concentration of salt or HCl or ethanol have an effect on the conductivity of the water. I'm in grade 10

Carmen N
Student - South Africa
May 18, 2011


A. Hi, Carmen.

HCl will ionize in water to H+ and Cl-. Those charged ions are carrying charge with them as they move. Within limits, how much charge you can convey in a given time will be proportional to how many H+ and Cl- ions you have in the solution. That should pretty much answer the ethanol question too. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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May 18, 2011


Q. Hi,

We are currently working on a project called water level indicator. We have to use distilled water as our water sample. But the problem is even with very small gap between probes, LED does no longer light up. What do we have to do to make the water conduct. We are not allowed to add any impurity like salts, etc. What are our options?

Kate Ortiz
- Davao City, Philippines
January 18, 2012


A. You can't make DI water conductive, Kate. You need to use a different type of level indicator, such as a simple float switch.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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January 18, 2012



Q. If the industries use conductivity to test for impurities in the water, will this method work for all chemical impurities? I'm in 11th grade and we are doing a lab over conductivity, and I was just not too sure about that question. Thanks.

Alex Schulte
- Robinson, Illinois, United States
February 7, 2012


A. Hi, Alex. No, a conductivity test would only indicate the presence of conductive ions. Lots of harmful materials do not ionize. For example, petroleum oil does not conduct electricity, and bacteria and viruses and such are life forms that do not ionize.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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February , 2012



Q. My 6th grade son is doing a science fair project on conductivity. When he put the positively and negatively charged wires into salt water, one of the wires started bubbling vigorously, and the water eventually turned yellow (and yes, the light bulb lit up faintly). Can anybody explain what chemical reaction may have caused these results?

Dena Araujo
- Papillion, Nebraska, USA
February 24, 2012


A. Hi Dena. The bubbles were hydrogen gas. The electricity causes water to separate into either hydrogen gas and hydroxide (OH) ions, or hydrogen gas and oxygen gas. But he needs to re-do the experiment because you guys did not note which of the two charged wires bubbled :-)

It's hard to say what turned the water yellow, but when he redoes it, pour the yellow water through a coffee filter to determine whether the yellow coloration is a dissolved material or a precipitated one. Good luck!

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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February 24, 2012



Q. Pure distilled water is an insulator. Would it be safe standing in distilled water while working on an electric circuit? Why or why not?

Catherine Andaquig
- Philippines
February 21, 2013


A. Hi Catherine. It would not be safe. There are various degrees of distilled water purity, and the electricity could slowly or suddenly gain conductivity from things as simple as salty sweat.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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February 24, 2013



Q. Uhmm, mind if I ask you sir ... is there still an electricity on a hot water with salt ... (it's because salt dissolves faster in hot water?) Yeah and would it be a better conductor of electricity (the hot water with salt)? Thank you, I just need some information or some answers about this because I'm using this as for my Investigatory Project :)

Thanks.

John P [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]
student - Philippines
October 14, 2014


November 2014

Hi John. If you don't know the answer to a question, feel free to research it or ask people to help you. But when you don't understand a question, tell the teacher you don't understand it ... because asking for answers to questions you don't understand will only hamper your education, not help it.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
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May 19, 2018

thumbs up sign  They have actually come out with distilled water mist fire extinguisher for electrical fires. I think it is safe up to 100,000 volt (if not, at least 1000 volts) as long as you stand about 1 meter away from the appliance. The thought is that distilled water conducts less than tap water, plus mist does not conduct as much electricity as a straight stream, so I think it is the higher the atomization the less conductivity.

Well I am not sure about that but spray or mist conducts less electricity than straight stream because there is more air space between droplets; it should be safe to use a standard water fire extinguisher on up to about 400 volts as long as you stand 4 feet away.

Telesforo Reyes
- Towson Maryland US




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