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How to solder, weld, fasten Titanium -- especially eyeglass frames



Q. I AM A JEWELRY AND EYE GLASS REPAIRER. I WISH TO KNOW HOW TO SOLDER TITANIUM AND I ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHERE TO PURCHASE THE MATERIALS NEEDED TO SOLDER TITANIUM.

THANK YOU,

David Zobali
JEWELRY AND EYEGLASS REPAIR - NEW CITY, NEW YORK
2004


A. It is not possible to solder titanium-- you can weld it but under very special conditions.

Goran Budija
- Cerovski vrh Croatia
2004


Q. To Goran Budija:

If you can't solder titanium, then how are hinges put on titanium eyeglasses? Also, under what conditions can titanium be welded?

Thank you.

David Zobali [returning]
JEWELRY AND EYEGLASS REPAIR - NEW CITY, NEW YORK


A. I think there is a problem with terminology-- frames for eyeglasses are brazed not soldered, since the temperature exceeds 450 °C. Titanium in the presence of any oxygen forms a tightly adherent oxide layer, which impairs joining by brazing, welding, etc. Therefore, titanium is brazed in an argon atmosphere, without a flux, using different types of filler metal. There is a good description of the technology in a technical paper from Nippon Steel, one of the leading producers of titanium alloy products. Use the following link for more information:
http://www.nsc.co.jp/gikai/en/contenthtml/n62/6205.pdf

Toby Padfield
Automotive module supplier - Michigan

[Ed. update: The above link is broken. Thankfully, the Internet Archive preserved a copy here smiley
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A. Hinges are probably spot welded. Process is same as for other metals. For more info try Titanium.org web site. Good luck!

Goran Budija
- Cerovski vrh Croatia


A. The following link will get you to a company that has all that you need to begin repairing or building Titanium frames:
www.arkhe.net/en/

I am seeking somebody who currently does Titanium Eyeglass repair and came upon it. Anybody reading this with helpful info, please respond.

Cheers,

Jeff Schmidt
- Richmond, Virginia

Ed. note Feb. 2017: Although that link still leads to a supplier of titanium, we see no technical articles on their site anymore. Posters: most links break quickly, inconveniencing a dozen readers for each one the link helped. So please try to include the titles/authors of suggested articles so we can try to find them when the links break :-)

A. There is a guy in Colorado Springs Colorado doing business as "Eyewear Repair" his shop is on "Galley" (no street, avenue, road, etc. just "Galley") He does amazing work and has made strong, long lasting repairs to several pairs of Titanium and Titanium alloy eye glass frames over the past 20 years. Hunt him down, he has knowledge worth knowing!

Bruce Fanning
- Manitou Springs, Colorado
2006


A. We can solder Titanium frames. We use CO2 laser in argon atmosphere to do it. The equipment can be used in dental labs, too.

Paul Fisher
- Prague, Czech Republic
2007




Q. When setting up a repair is there any way other than abject failure to determine if a frame is titanium, stainless, or other unsolderable material?
Thanks GMC

greg coyston
optical lab-repair guy - winnipeg manitoba canada
2007




[editor appended this entry to this thread which already addresses it in lieu of spawning a duplicative thread]
Q. Hello,
I have a pair of eyeglasses. The frames are made out of titanium wire. Can I use silver solder to repair the nose bridge? What I notice using regular solder is this. The solder flows, but will not solder the break.
Thanks
John

John Arcotta
- Frederick, Colorado
2007


Silver Solder

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Silver Soldering Flux

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A. I have just finished soldering a broken hinge of a Flexon bow. I used silver-bearing solder and plain yellow flux paste. I am not a jeweler in any way, and have no prior experience doing this, other than general electronics/PCB soldering.

Matt Swanton
- North Smithfield, Rhode Island
May 10, 2009


A. I am a Jeweler. I just broke both hinges off of the ear wires on a pair of Titanium glasses. I used my handy dandy oxy-acetylene Smith Little Torch this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] , HandyFlux this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] , and jewelers Easy Flo silver solder this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] to braze the hinge pieces back on the ear wires. Very strong solder.

Dave Bender
- Friendswood, Texas
March 23, 2010


thumbs up signThank You, Publishers, for adding the Hyperlinks to my response. I must say, 'Grobet', is a major Jeweler Supply Company, that carries quality supplies. But, I prefer Cadmium-free silver solder

Dave Bender [returning]
dfb Creations LLC - Friendswood, Texas
March 25, 2010


thumbs up sign Hi, Dave. Thanks for your instructions! (The hyperlinks are both for the readers' convenience [if we look things up once, it saves 500 readers from having to each look them up], and for our own benefit [we may get a commission if readers buy the product from the source we've linked to]).

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
March 25, 2010


thumbs up sign Hi thank you so much for the info, my son just mangled my Oakleys this morning. So out with my oxy torch as low as I could get to with some silver solder and Harris stay silv white flux this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] . Filed the area, and very importantly cleaned the area with some degreasing all purpose cleaner. Just fluxed, heated the area and dabbed some silver in place and used the heat carefully allow the silver to distribute. Quick filing and almost good as new, and most importantly silver joints are quite strong. Again thanks for the info, very simple repair.

kris lowe
- squamish bc canada
May 14, 2011


A. The PUK 3S High Precision Welder this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] is much less expensive than a laser and will weld titanium as well as many other metals including jewelry metals.

Elaine Corwin
- Bridgeport Connecticut USA
July 26, 2011


A. I used hot glue. Two days later still holding.

Brady Gallogly
- Cincinnati
February 13, 2012




Q. Hi! I've been a welder for about 5 years, was a titanium repair welder (in a purge chamber) for two. I'm going to be making titanium jewelry on my own, but I need to somehow attach rings to make a titanium piece a pendant for a necklace, adhere titanium pieces to blank bands to make them rings, to blank cuffs to make them bracelets, to blank studs and hooks to make them earrings, etc.

What would be the best way to do this? It's been ages since I've brazed or soldered anything, and never titanium.

I'm hoping to use stainless steel for all the stuff I want to adhere to my titanium pieces, but if I can't find some things in stainless, I might have to use silver.

If I can find these things in titanium, I will just use that and weld them together, but I have to use what I can find.

Any advice would be most appreciated!

Stephanie Puckey
- Milwaukie, Oregon
June 27, 2020


A. You can TIG weld titanium; according to some sources it can be soldered too, but it is not simple. German PUK 5 precision TIG welder this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] and US made Orion precise TIG welder this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] are two brands. Reactive metals studio sells jewelry grade titanium sheet and wire (www.reactivemetals.com/titanium). Hope it helps and good luck!

Goran Budija
- Zagreb Croatia
September 25, 2020




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