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Super Finishing By Honing. Hard vs. Soft Jobs




Q. Dear Sir,

1) When is the Job considered Hard & Soft for Honing?

2)How To Achieve Superfinish (mirror finish) by honing for jobs Of 20-HRC, 35-HRC & 60-HRC? What are the parameters that influence the finish related to machine & Honing Stone.

3) Where can I get the literature or book on honing process?

PRASHANT M ACHARI
Honing Incharge in M/c Shop - THANE, MAHARASHTRA, India
2004


A. The word hone now refers to a couple of different cutting/polishing process using a heavy use of water. Probably you are referring to a lapping type machine process rather than a wet abrasive or extruding process. I think when you refer to hard or soft, you are talking about the material to be worked. This is not my area of expertise, so I would recommend you get in contact with the people who manufactured the machine system you are using or want to use. Each machine manufacturer has different parameters concerning size and speed on specific applications.

tony kenton
AF Kenton
retired business owner - Hatboro, Pennsylvania
2004


A. Hard means after heat treatment and soft means before heat treatment. Honing finish mainly depends honing stone properties, feed rate of the honing tool and RPM of the honing tool along with the cutting fluid. Plenty of books are available in the market for this. Hope I answered your question!

V S Magesh
- Chennai, India
2004


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Ed. note: The ASM Metals Handbook volume on Machining has a good chapter on honing, and used copies are usually available quite inexpensively.




Why honing? What are the advantages?

2001

Q. What is there in "honing"? We are a leading manufacturer of DOM tubings in India and exporting world wide.

Recently we started manufacturing tubings suitable for hydraulic cylinder application.

Some of the customers say they can use the tubes as such provided the id surface finish is 0.60 RA max in micron scale and meeting the H-9 tolerance, but some of the other customers feel "honing" is a must.

We don't understand the reason behind this. Is honing carried out only to improve the surface finish and dimensional tolerance or anything else is there?

Can anyone help on this matter?

Thanks,

C.K.Sekar
- Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India


2001

A. Sir,

For what its worth , size control and final RMS finish of the part is operator dependent, if for example an operator were honing a cylinder bore, and was "overstroking" the work he would create a venturi shape. If the same operator were to "understroke" the work, he would create a barrel shape since the stone are spending more time in the middle of the work. it is also possible to get TA taper with still another "stroke" of the work. This same thing can happen in O.D. honing, with variations in stroking technique the operator can create straight, convex, and concave shapes, as for the final finish , the operator may choose a corse stone with large stock removal in mind then switch to a finer stone that will meet the specifications of the print.

My thought is ... if your tube "out of the box":

1. meets the RMS requirement (which will be important for the backup rings and seals, especially in high pressure systems)
2. meets parallel requirement

I see no apparent need for the hone.

Brad Sawyers
- Racine, Wisconsin



2001

thumbs up signDEAR MR. BRAD SAWYERS,

THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON "HONING". ACTUALLY WE HAVE ANOTHER DOUBT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED. NORMALLY THE TUBES ARE SUB-CRITICALLY ANNEALED TO RELIEVE THE INTERNAL STRESSES BEFORE HONING. BUT TO AVOID HONING THE TUBES WILL BE SUPPLIED IN "AS DRAWN" CONDITION WITH INTERNAL STRESSES. DO YOU THINK THIS MAY "AFFECT"THE PERFORMANCE?

LET ME THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR KIND ATTENTION ON THIS.....

C.K.Sekar
- CHENNAI, TAMILNADU, India


A. Apart from surface finish another reason for choosing honing alternately to grinding, extrusion, reaming is for the cross hatch section produced during the honing process.

The cross hatch section during the honing process is useful in cases where the oil retention in the cylinder helps in better lubrication since the oil film has small pockets in the cross hatch which acts as reservoirs of oil. Since this is very small and doesn't meet the normal visual perception one may tend to ignore this.

Ganesh Janakan
- Chennai, India
February 17, 2012




Drawbacks of honing?

Q. Does honing operations have drawbacks ? I would like to know that is there methods that would help to completely eliminate the taper that comes in the honing operations in the cylinder.. Can any body help me in this matter?

Shashwat
- Coimbatore, Tamilnadu, India
 


A. Sir:

Provided the initial hole is straight, taper will come from wear of the stones and from thermal expansion (either the tube or the mandrel). Any method that controls these variables will eliminate the tapering. Stones that last longer and sufficient cooling and frequent back and forth travel of the mandrel are routine. If actual stones wear fast try borazon or diamond.

Regards,

Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico
 




2003

Q. Sir/Madam,

I would like to carry out my research works in the area of Honing process. So I have some doubts about the topics. Would you like to clarify my doubts , it is really help to me start my research works as early as possible.
1. What is the present trends on Honing Technology?
2. How can I start my research works in the optimization of honing parameters?
3. How can I get data for completed research works in the same field?
4. Is it possible to carry out the simulation in the same work? If yes, what type of numerical methods were used?
5. We have a HZ Honing machine.

So I would like to carry out the research works in optimization of honing parameters.
What can I do?

Thank you so much,
Yours Sincerely,

Sear T [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]
researcher - Tamil Nadu, India


A. Your question is very complex and can not be answered with a simple one paragraph answer and that is probably why no one has answered it. There is not a lot of information out there concerning any mechanical processing equipment except that put out by the manufacturer of the equipment.

I have tried to classify all material removal systems in my book, but there is no organization that oversees technical data as you are looking for. Regarding honing: You are dealing with at least 2 main factors.

1. The abrasive and

2. the liquid.

Basically, how these factors are applied is what makes the difference in machine systems. Meaning, how the energy or force is applied to the abrasive is very important. Rather than go into an extensive detail, I suggest you check with the manufacturer of your equipment.

tony kenton
AF Kenton
retired business owner - Hatboro, Pennsylvania
2003



Q. What are the present trends in honing?

ravi gupta
- Bokaro steel city, Jharkhand, India
August 31, 2010




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