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What chemical is used to lower pH of copper pyrophosphate bath




Q. What chemicals can we use to lower the pH of the copper pyrophosphate plating bath? Is Polyphosphoric acid ok?

Steven Ang
Student - Singapore
2003


A. We don't use the term polyphosphoric. If it means pyrophosphoric, is O.K.

Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico
2003



Q. Hi!

I would like to ask how to maintain pH on a PyroCopper Bath? Our pH trend is increasing everyday and right now we are using Sulfuric Acid to decrease its pH. Experts said that pH of this bath should be decreasing in the long run...But why is it that every day pH is still increasing on our side? What are the possible causes?

Our pH parameter is 8.2 - 9.2...usual pH everyday reach 9.3 to 9.5.

Thanks ahead.

Diana Fe Espinosa
Philippines

Diana Fe Espinosa
plating service employee - Philippines
November 4, 2011



First of two simultaneous responses -- November 10, 2011

A. Hi Diana,

pH increase could be due to hydrolysis of water at cathode instead of copper ions reduce to copper metal:

2e-
2H2O ------> H2 (hydrogen gas) + 2OH-

You may verify cathode efficiency by:

1. Observe if significant gassing around cathode;
2. Observe if bath solution copper concentration is climbing up (anode dissolution more than cathode plate out);
3. Perform weight gain test to compare actual copper deposit weight vs. theoretical weight under Faraday Law.

Other than that, drag in of alkaline species may be a reason as well.

Regards,
David

David Shiu
David Shiu
- Singapore


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Ed. note: Faraday's Law of Electrolysis

Second of two simultaneous responses -- November 10, 2011

A. Hi,

In the early days of Copper Pyrophosphate plating, we used and recommended "Tetraphosphoric acid". It was made by mixing water and phosphorus pentoxide to give a polyphosphoric containing 4 P atoms - H6 P4 O13. In reality it contained a mixture of polyphosphates with an average P of 4. It worked very well and rapidly became pyrophosphate (P2) in the plating bath.
We soon abandoned it in favour of of the cheaper and readily available sulfuric acid. In moderate quantities sulphate has no adverse effects. Ultimately it begins to lower the maximum current density as it adds to viscosity of the bath.

Your rate of pH rise is too high and the question you should have asked is how to prevent it. pH rises in pyro baths because of excessive anode area. There are several drawbacks, the need to add acid being one of them. Others are:
1) lowering of the optimum P207:Cu ratio
2) If you are using brightener, it will precipitate on the sludge which forms on the anodes at LCD.

Controlling anode area is the is key to running a copper pyro bath. The pH should slowly rise, say 0.2 - 0.3 units per week. There are also disadvantages with falling pH.

My advice is to get the anode area down to meet the above condition. When the anode current density is correct, the anodes should have a clean, pink or slightly dusty appearance. Anode CD too low gives a brown sludge and too high, a bright electropolished appearance.

Well, there's some advice - whether you want it or not!

Harry

harry_parkes
Harry Parkes
- Birmingham, UK


A. Is the volume of your acid solution staying constant?

Scott Hope
- Chicago, Illinois, USA
November 10, 2011


A. I run a Copper Pyrophosphate Plating Bath. It's small, about 150 gallons. My additives (with each load) is a brightener and ammonium hydroxide. Both of these items have a higher pH than my bath. So with each load, my bath pH increases. However my DI water is a bit of a lower pH to my bath, and so this tends to even out. Once a week I usually add a solution of 10% Sulfuric Acid to 90% DI Water. This solution is generally (for my bath) made up in a 3L bottle and poured into our sump tank. This generally drops the pH from 8.9 (which is the highest I will allow it to go), to 8.6. I sometimes have to add 2 x 3L bottles, depending on my concentration amounts.

Hope this helps.

Dante Ellis
- Camarillo, California
December 28, 2011


A. TO LOWER pH USE POLYPHOSPHORIC ACID (THE TERM POLY PHOSPHORIC ACID REF. TO CONC. GRADES OF PHOSPHORIC ACID ABOVE 95%). TO RAISE pH USE 10% POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE.

ajay raina
Ajay Raina
Ludhiana, Punjab, India
December 31, 2011




Q. I am running into a problem where my records (copper blanks) are getting a pattern of tiny dots all over them as if pits are trying to form but are then covered up by the brightener/leveler (py-61-H) during plating. I noticed that the anodes are getting a dark brown to black film on them.

I read a lot of posts about how this black film is normal in acid copper plating but have not been able to find information if this is normal in pyrophosphate copper plating.

The rest of my process is the same so I'm not sure what is causing the film or if this is related to the little dots of roughness all over the blanks.

Is there something I should be doing to eliminate this film? My anodes usually have a light colored film on them.

Thanks

Ben

Ben Richards
- LA, California
June 5, 2012


A. Hi Ben.

We appended your inquiry to this thread because Harry Parkes' response of November 10, 2011 seems to directly answer your question. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
June 6, 2012


June 9, 2012

A. I would suggest taking a look at your part while it is being plated if possible. Find out at what step of the process these dots are occurring and if they are occurring consistently in the same area at the same part of the process.

From what you said, it appears that your part goes in not cleaned fully as the dots appear at the beginning and are covered up by your brightener? (If I understand you correctly).

Items to check would be:

1. Are there dots before the part goes in? Can you check with a scope before putting it in the bath?

2. If they are not there, look at the part as it goes through the process and see at which point the dots start appearing and narrow that problem down

3. Are you using a consistent substrate? If you were not getting dots before, but are getting dots now, did you change the type of substrate you were using?

4. It looks like you could have a chemical imbalance, possibly too much of one thing, too little of another? Can you have it analyzed by a lab?

5. Are you putting in too much additive (PT61H or Ammonia) or too little of it?

That's my two cents on the subject.

Eduardo Hopkins
- Juarez, Mexico




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