No passwords, No popups, No cost, No AI:
we earn from 'affiliate link' purchases, making the site possible

Home /
T.O.C.
Fun
FAQs
Good
Books
Ref.
Libr.
Adver-
tise
Help
Wanted
Current
Q&A's
Site 🔍
Search
ted_yosem
Sound technical content, curated with aloha by
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Pine Beach, NJ
finishing.com -- The Home Page of the Finishing Industry

  The authoritative public forum
  for Metal Finishing since 1989
  mfhotline


  -----

Delamination at copper/steel interface




1998

I have a CRS 1010 part (3-sided box) that is plated with copper, bright nickel, black nickel, and passivated. The plating peels off of the steel on a couple of the parts we have received. The plating looks great, with no obvious blisters or other defects, it just peels off like foil.

My current suspicions are that the parts sat too long in the rinse tank prior to copper plate, or rectifier ripple in the copper tank (?)

Any thoughts?

Gail Ballv


1998

Gail, lots of possibilities.

1. The part was not cleaned well enough. Possibly a silicon cutting fluid? Tank not hot enough, Tank too weak. Too short a soak time. 2. Not properly activated. Acid weak, cold, too short a time. 3. Passivated by delays in getting to the copper tank. 4. You did not say STRIKE! Steel has to get a copper strike then copper plate or it will immersion plate and peel like a banana. If it was struck, I would guess that the tank is out of balance (not enough cyanide or the goody if you are using pyrophosphate).

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida



1998

Gail,

It is necessary to know peel starts from where, from substrate, from copper or from bright nickel. Then you can figure out what's the problem you have.

Ling

Ling Hao
- Grand Rapids, Michigan



1998

James,

We are looking at a number of the possiblities you have mentioned. We have since found that most of the parts manufactured in this lot have some peeling.

The cleaning is done on an adjacent line that preceedes a zinc plating process; there have been no reported problems with zinc products.

Is a strike necessary with alkaline copper? That is what is being used (sorry for not telling you earlier.)

Do you know if rectifier problems could cause this sort of peeling?

Thanks for your response,
Gail

Gail Ball




(No "dead threads" here! If this page isn't currently on the Hotline your Q, A, or Comment will restore it)

Q, A, or Comment on THIS thread -or- Start a NEW Thread

Disclaimer: It's not possible to fully diagnose a finishing problem or the hazards of an operation via these pages. All information presented is for general reference and does not represent a professional opinion nor the policy of an author's employer. The internet is largely anonymous & unvetted; some names may be fictitious and some recommendations might be harmful.

If you are seeking a product or service related to metal finishing, please check these Directories:

Finishing
Jobshops
Capital
Equipment
Chemicals &
Consumables
Consult'g,
& Software


About/Contact  -  Privacy Policy  -  ©1995-2024 finishing.com, Pine Beach, New Jersey, USA  -  about "affil links"