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Decoratively Painting tin ceilings
Q. What color were the old tin ceilings usually painted?
Sharon D [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]- Glendale, Arizona
2002
Q. Hello, Sharon,
I saw your question when I was looking for information on painting tin. I wonder if you or anyone can tell me if you need to prime when painting tin or can you just paint straight onto the clean tin?
- Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
A. Dear Sharon and Rachel,
Saw both your inquiries while searching information on new tin ceiling
[affil links] and history of old. Ours is circa early 1800's and the layers of paint have all been white. As tin can & does rust , a layer of primer such as
Zinsser B-I-N Primer Sealer
⇦this on
eBay or
Amazon [affil links]
or Rustoleum Rusty-Metal Primer
[affil links] is necessary. If you are painting an old ceiling with stains and rust spots, just lightly sand with fine sandpaper to smooth out bumps from the rust (use a mask and HEPA-vacuum in case of lead dust) and apply BINS. Then put on your finish coat. I use semi-gloss enamel to bring out all the design detail. The results are beautiful.
Good luck,
- Lebanon, Maine
2003
How to tone down shiny ceiling tin for backsplash use
Q. I would like to use new tin ceiling
[affil links] as a back splash in a new home we are building, The problem is it is too shiny the other fixtures in the kitchen are brushes nickel and satin stainless how can I tone down the shine and still have the surface remain durable? Just spraying a matte finish sealer doesn't work, Any Ideas?
Thanks,
- Dallas, Texas
2003
A. I had exactly the same problem, My genius-handyman neighbor came up with a solution: satin polyurethane (not water based!) tinted with artist's oil paint. I tinted mine green, but you could just add black or gray to tone down the silver color and the shine. I haven't had it long, but so far it is very attractive and durable.
A couple of cautions:
Do a lot of experimenting before you decide on a color; a little of the oil paint goes a long way in the polyurethane.
AND
the application of the polyurethane is a little tedious, because you have to be very diligent about how much you put on and keep constant watch for drips caused by the tin pattern surfaces--the stuff sets up fast (at least in our dry climate).
- Denver
2003
Q. I am interested in putting up tin ceiling [affil links] as a backsplash in my kitchen vs. tile. I am unable to find anyone who can answer my questions regarding durability, cleaning, or longevity. Can anyone answer these questions for me?
Kim Moynihan- Knoxville, Tennessee, U.S.A.
2004
A. Hi Kim. I'd suggest you don't go for actual old ceiling panels or a fancy faux finish in such a splashable and possibly greasy area. Buy one of the ceiling patterns with a good factory applied powder coating. They are very robust and perfect for a backsplash!
I did this one and we were happy with it for many years.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2003
Q. I hope someone can answer my question in relation to tin ceiling
[affil links].
We have just installed new panels in our basement ceiling and all my instructions say to use an oil based paint/primer or clear polyurethane coating.
I want to keep the silver steel look so I am using the clear coating. My question is regarding to cleaning it prior to sealing.
There are smudges from the leather gloves we wore while handling it and even Windex isn't helping.
Any suggestions?
Or will these even show once the clear coat is on?
- Seymour, Indiana
A. I read about this issue via a browser search after I saw rust on my new tin ceiling
[affil links]. I recently installed a tin ceiling and here's what they don't tell you:
fingerprints must be removed immediately or they start to cause oxidation to the tin. Surely there must be some kind of glove one could wear (cotton?) to keep the prints off. And once they're there - they stay. We tried the vinegar
⇦in bulk on
eBay
or
Amazon [affil links] and water solution that was recommended but the fingerprints remained. Then dad tried turpentine
⇦this on
eBay or
Amazon [affil links]
- oops! That discolored the metal. Then I tried denatured alcohol which seemed to remove the turpentine stain but not the original fingerprints. Then it rained outside and the window being broken, a lot of humidity came into the room. This morning the three panels that we tried to clean had a fine layer of orange on them. You guessed it - rust! I think we're going to have to use the
Rustoleum aluminum color
[affil links] paint and cover the whole thing now. What a mess. For 1500 dollars, you'd think the company could have included a couple pages on tips and tricks for new ceilings!
Perhaps with a buffing wheel and some
jeweler's rouge
⇦this on
eBay
or
Amazon [affil links] I could bring the original shine back, but it would require me doing the whole ceiling for uniformity, followed by an immediate clear coat - that day or the next. Waiting to deal with the fingerprints was a waste.
- Port Townsend, Washington
Multiple threads merged: please forgive chronology errors :-)
Painting pressed tin backsplash
Q. I am installing a pressed tin backsplash -- would like input on painting or staining this material
Linda H [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]home owner - Jasper, Texas
2004
A. Although we are calling it "tin", Linda, it's probably not actually tin, it's probably steel. You can buy this material already powdercoated from the factory, which would probably be best if you are using new material ... but steel is readily painted with any made-for-metal paint like rustoleum. Good luck.
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. I am interested in using tin ceiling as a back splash in a kitchen remodel. What would be the best way to prime, paint and seal in order to avoid problems in the future?
Nadine F [surname deleted for privacy by Editor]remodeler - Red Bank, New Jersey
2006
A. As you see, Nadine, we appended your question to a thread that hopefully will pretty much answer it. But this would be if you wanted to reuse genuine old tin ceiling tiles. If you are going with new, today you can buy powder coated "ceiling tile" for backsplashes, and that's what we put in our kitchen. We're very happy with it and it will be much more rust resistant than what you can do yourself. Good luck.
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. I have acquired a very old house and the some of the ceilings are decorative tin, I would like to restore them as they seem to have been painted over with at least 3 coats of paint, can they be stripped? What product can I use without breaking the bank?
Audrey dixonbuyer - Rochester New York
2007
Q. We have many tin ceilings in our house. When we bought the house there were so many layers of paint you couldn't see the design. We sand blasted them and not thinking of rust I primed & painted with latex paint, it took ten years but now they are all spotted with rust. How do I fix this? I am reading now that I can't paint over the latex with oil base.thank you for any help you can offer. Karen
Karen Hillwig- East Brady, Pennsylvania
September 19, 2008
Multiple threads merged: please forgive chronology errors :-)
Cleaning galvanized tin ceiling
Q. We had galvanized (shiny)tin sheets installed in the ceiling of our kitchen of our home now being built. The installation evidently caused finger and hand prints from the acid is ones hands. Now it will not come clean. It is like an oxidation or white rust. The cabinets and appliances are now installed and we can get the ceiling cleaned. Nothing has worked so far. Please help - Urgent. Thanks so much!
Chris JustissHomeowner - Sharpsburg, Georgia, USA
February 14, 2009
Q. I have exactly this problem, however I don't see an answer.
Deb McKinney- Broken Bow, Oklahoma USA
August 24, 2017
Hi Deb. We've now combined your thread with an earlier one which says it's important to keep the fingerprints off in the first place. There doesn't seem to be a good answer because the fingerprints are not a stain that can be removed, but are apparently etched into the finish. Maybe try diluted vinegar (because it's an etchant) on a spot above a cabinet which you can't see from the floor in case it doesn't work well. Neutralize with baking soda [in bulk on eBay or Amazon [affil links] .
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
August 2017
Q. I want to use some old tin ceiling tiles as decorative art in my girls' room. I want to preserve the original paint and the worn finish, but I am concerned about the lead paint. Can I just put a clear coat over them to eliminate the worry of the lead paint?
Stef wolff- Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
September 25, 2012
A. Hi Steff. Risks are relative, and worry is a personal reaction, so you can't count on a definitive yes/no answer.
But what you are suggesting is what I would do, assuming your girls are not infants who might lick the artwork. Good luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
September 25, 2012
Q. We have salvaged some tin wall panels and ceiling tile from an old hotel. I will try to include pics of the panels as well as the finish I'm trying to achieve:
The wall panels have been stripped of paint and I am ready to refinish the panels to hang in our dining room. The good thing is the panels are not mounted to the wall yet. I would like to do a two layer paint treatment. I would love any suggestions that can be offer for the final faux finish.
Darlene Shuster- Toano, Virginia
June 16, 2014
Q. I just salvaged victorian tin wall panels, some with one coat of paint, some with 2-3 coats. I want to use them as a kitchen back splash. How do I best and safely prepare them for paint? I'm thinking of using Annie Sloan chalk paint (water base) with a tinted wax for a velvety matte finish
Iris TargoffHome owner/ restorer - Sea Cliff, New York USA
December 9, 2014
Hi Iris. I was ruminating about how Darlene could obtain that smooth brass look she wants on the relief points, without brass plating the panels before painting. I have no experience in this, but it sounds like you just answered her question: paint the panels, relieve the paint from the high points, then do a wax rub on the bare areas? If you do the wax rub first, you must be careful to get wax only on the high points, not in the recesses, because the paint won't stick to it.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
December 2014
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