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Plating rhodium on white gold



Ed. note; This is an interesting but ridiculously long thread, and only one of many on the subject. Before you get too confused, you might want to start with our FAQ on Rhodium Plating and White Gold to get a very quick overall understanding :-)


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Q. Can you plate white gold with platinum or silver? If so, would it rub off as quick as rhodium?

Thanks,

Natalie Masters
- Manchester, UK
2007



A. Gold is yellow metal in nature. We use nickel and palladium in the alloys to turn it white with bleaching effect. Silver is white in nature so it can give its colour to gold and turn it a bit white. The more the content of nickel, palladium and silver, the more the metal is white. But the surface it not perfectly white and shiny. So rhodium is deposited on it by electroplating process.

Rhodium is most brightest metal on this planet. But is grayish in nature. it reflects the base metal colour so the metal appears white and bright after rhodium plating.

You can get white, brown and yellow sports on your metal surface if the rhodium process is not done carefully or the metal surface is not cleaned properly before rhodium.

Since rhodium is brightest metal, even a small scratches on your piece will be clearly visible after rhodium. so the piece should be nicely buffed before rhodium.

While plating, the person should take care of several things like the voltage and current at which the piece is dipped in the rhodium bath, the time for which the piece is kept in the bath, & the bath temperature; the piece should be cleaned properly, after cleaning it's rinsed with DM water and then before entering to the rhodium bath, it's dipped in acid to make the piece neutral (i.e. pH 7). If all these instructions are followed properly, you can get a perfect, clean, and spotless rhodium plating on your metal.

Shah Shankhesh R.
- Mumbai, Maharashtra, INDIA
2007


A. I have recently read that the jewellery industry in the UK has been aware of this problem and has recently graded white gold on a 32 point system and then sub divided into 3 categories so the manufacturer or the retailer buying white gold bullion or finished products will know what grade and colour they are purchasing even if already plated . This grading has been done through the gold council and assay office .
Grade 1 - no need for plating
Grade 2 - option to plate
Grade 3 - requires plating

Brian Fairhurst
- Northwich, England
2007



Q. I think the main point that is rarely recognized in all of this is: My grandmother and mother have white gold rings which have never needed plating. Why is that? It angers me to hear "white gold is made of yellow gold, which is yellow in color....bla bla bla... so deal with it." Again, why do we all have relatives with white gold jewelry that has never yellowed and never been plated? Anyway, yes, the same thing happened to my wife and I. It is just disheartening to find out that you now have to bring in your engagement ring and wedding bands for plating every 6 months.... What? So how are we going to pass my wife's ring on to our daughter? I guess with a maintenance plan for say.... 100+ years.

Brian Chirrick
- Placentia, California, USA
2007


A. It is indeed disheartening, Brian, and you are right about how big a problem it is. I've learned a lot in the last few years --

Gold is yellow. There are no isotopes that are white; that is scientific fact.

To make jewelry, jewelers usually mix gold with other metals because pure 24 karat gold is too soft for finely detailed jewelry. If the other metals they mix it with are chiefly nickel or palladium, the resulting mix will be "whitish". How white depends on which metals they mix in, and in what proportion. A "whiteness scale" is mentioned a few postings above.

Your relatives have rings where the right metal (probably palladium) was mixed in, and in the right proportion, that the ring came out satisfactorily white for them, and it stayed that color over the decades.

Although your relatives' rings are indeed white, they are not the brilliant shiny highly polished, diamond-like, chrome-plated-like look of what you see in jewelry stores today. That is the look of rhodium, not the look of white gold. Whether consumer-driven or jeweler-driven, tastes changed to where people now expect white gold jewelry to be that brilliant rhodium plated color -- probably because it makes the diamonds look bigger. So it became nearly universal to rhodium plate the jewelry, and you won't see much unplated white gold jewelry; and if you do, you will find it quite "dull" compared to the glittery rhodium plated stuff.

My assumption is that what happened is the jewelry industry started saying to themselves "we're going to rhodium plate it anyway, why spend the extra money for palladium in the mix", so they started accepting white gold of lower and lower "whiteness" as the base, worrying about it less and less. It seems that some jewelry stores in the middle aisles of malls may even be rhodium plating regular yellow gold.

Some people love the glistening rhodium plated look so much that they accept frequent replating as the cost of getting it. I'm not one of them. Like you, I believe heirloom jewelry should not be plated. But I accept that that means it will be "white" but it will not be dazzling because a mix of yellow gold and other metals, no matter how well done, just can never be the brilliant dazzling color of rhodium. Hope it helps.

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2007



Q. I am in college and my boyfriend just proposed to me and the ring already has the white gold peeling off and it looks horrendous and we have our engagement party coming up. can I get it replated and about how much does this cost?

Nancy Balian
student - Wood-Ridge New Jersey USA
2007


A. Peeling!? The plating is for some reason defective, Nancy. It might eventually wear through, but it should never peel.

Other threads in this forum indicate a replating cost of about $30 to $50 at jewelry stores, although there are plating shops which have expensive instrumentation and which specialize in plating high quality jewelry, and they might charge twice that.

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2007



Q. Hello. I got engaged last December, and my ring is white gold. I work at a bank and deal with change a lot so it got pretty scratched up on the bottom, and I noticed that yellowish tint. I did my research and understand fully the reasoning for this. So I went to have my ring replated. It was very inexpensive (~$40), and looked like NEW! The problem was that after about 2 months the same thing was starting to happen. I haven't gotten it replated again though. I was wondering if there was an amount of rhodium plating I could request to be done at one time (like thickness of it), to help keep it the way it is supposed to look for longer. Anybody know?

Crystal Trask
buyer - East Branch, New York
2007


A. My wedding set is of white gold. I take my set in annually to have the rhodium placing done. From what I've researched and from what I've been told, white gold loses it's "white gold" color due to various reasons...chemical reactions to skin, chemical reactions to lotions, soaps, etc...also from salt water and just age. I fish and camp often so my rings get dull quite fast. If you purchase your rings with a warranty, the warranty coverage should cover the rhodium plating on your ring. The rhodium plating also help get rid of scratches. I just picked up my set today, takes about a week or so and about $35.00 per ring. They come back looking as if your rings are spanking new. I highly recommend getting the process done annually.

Gwendolyn
- Richmond, Virginia
January 10, 2008



thumbs down signWhite gold sucks. After all the money I've paid for my rings I am almost sick that it looks so dingey after a few weeks. I have been told so many things -- ohhh its having a reaction to your finger! Oh, all metals tarnish! Blah blah blahi..its all a bunch of crap. Then, the other day I went to get the rhodium plating done, and they told me that I could not because it will damage my ring! Meanwhile, I have been sending it away to get the plating done for three years.

Go for platinum. Spend the money ... or just get yellow gold; save the hassle.

Anastasia Beaverhausen
buyer - Omaha, Nebraska, USA
January 12, 2008


! I've been reading some of the comments. White gold does not exist. Gold is yellow, no other color. It's Rhodium plated. You can go to the jewelry store and get it rhodium plated every year, for about $20-$40.
The yellowish of ring is the gold and nothing else.

Nathalie Torres
- Winnipeg, Canada
March 6, 2008


A. Not quite true, Natalie. Because this issue is very confusing spread across hundreds of postings, we've summarized it all for easy reading as our FAQ on Rhodium Plating and White Gold.

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
March 6, 2008



Hi Ted,

Ok, I read the FAQ, if I understood right, gold is yellow, to make it white gold they add other metals to make it white....am I correct on this? Now the rhodium plating is a metal just to make the surface of the band brighter/blink blink! LOL

If correct, the ring is just high maintenance. Regardless it's still gold and it isn't worth any less than the yellow gold ring.

Nathalie Torres [returning]
- Winnipeg, Canada
March 6, 2008



thumbs up sign Yes, that is my understanding, Nathalie.

I've been married 39 years and just bought the 3rd setting for my wife's ring because two wore out over the decades. I doubt we'll be around long enough to wear this one out, but whoever we pass it on to won't have to worry about replating because we went yellow this time :-)

But the diamond really does look much smaller than it used to. My wife married such a cheapskate :-(

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
March 6, 2008


Q. Hi,
Just had a quick question. I had recently found out about rhodium plating and just had it done yesterday for the 2nd time in 3 mos. My wedding set is yellow gold and I love the look of the white gold after the plating is complete. The jeweler yesterday said that if I continue to have my rings plated, they will become brittle and ruined over time and have to be rebuilt. Is this a fact? It's free for me to have it plated from the jeweler I bought it from. I realize now from the prior posts that the jeweler is probably putting a very thin layer of rhodium on and what doesn't help matters is the increasing cost of gold and other metals. I don't mind getting it done but if it's going to ruin my ring, I'll stop. Is there any fact to this?

Elaine H
- Sann Ramon, California
March 19, 2008


A. Hi, Elaine. The biggest problem, as mentioned in the FAQs, is that the contrast between yellow gold and rhodium is so drastic that your ring becomes unsatisfactory looking very quickly. While I haven't heard of rings becoming brittle because of too frequent replating, I suppose it's possible if you are doing it every couple of months.

The price of rhodium is presently off the charts (literally! see www.kitco.com/scripts/hist_charts/yearly_graphs.cgi). It was $7000 per ounce in January and is $9,000 per ounce now. Although little is needed, I don't think you will be able to afford replating every 2 months forever, not to mention the inconvenience. Please consider letting your yellow gold ring be yellow.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
April 2008

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Ed. note 2017: The cost of rhodium topped out at about $12,000 per ounce but it is presently slightly lower than gold. My assumption that the price would keep rising was wrong, so it's good I'm not trying to earn a living in speculation :-)
It turns out that rhodium is so rare that it cannot be mined for its own sake. Rather, it's a byproduct of mining platinum. So when a lot of platinum is being mined, rhodium costs about the same as gold; but when platinum mining goes into a downturn, rhodium becomes virtually unavailable and its price soars.


Q. WAS WONDERING, COULD I GET YELLOW GOLD AND DIAMOND EARRINGS RHODIUM PLATED? I LOVE THE EARRINGS, BUT HAVE STARTED WEARING WHITE METALS EXCLUSIVELY.

JUDY MCCOLGAN
- OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA USA
April 3, 2008


A. Hi, Judy. It's only a matter of how long the rhodium plating will last before wearing off considering the strong contrast. It's not a good idea for a ring, but for earrings that you wear only occasionally, and that don't get friction like a ring, it may be fine.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
April 4, 2008



A. Unfortunately I could not read all the comments on this topic, I just got too tired to read of the same problem over and over again. But please read the following.
I am a Jeweler and I personally replate jewellery for a living.
The truth is that plating Rhodium over white gold is a jewellery making standard. Depending on the kind of alloys, the color may vary on white gold. What consumers need to know is that Rhodium is really a PLATING and it DOES wear out. Depending on how often jewellery are used and on the person, as well as on the quality of the plating and solution used. Some jewellery are hollow and the jeweler doesn't want to risk to contaminate a $450 solution, so he uses older solution.
Consumers also need to understand that a piece of jewellery CANNOT stay shiny forever. It's normal when the surface gets scratches over time.
There is no way to keep jewellery shiny forever. They need to be cleaned and polished regularly.
Now, if you really don't want you jewellery to discolor ask you jeweler to make your jewellery using SUPER WHITE K19 WHITE GOLD. This alloy does not require Rhodium plating and will stay white forever. Furthermore, it will REQUIRE polishing and cleaning regularly.

Pierre P. Jewellery
- Montreal, Quebec, Canada
August 25, 2008


A. We are a manufacturing jeweler located in South Africa.

We often manufacture wedding bands for couples. Typically, mostly because the engagement ring is 18kt white gold, the lady's ring is made in the same metal.

Gents are generally rougher with their hands and so we mostly manufacture their rings in 9kt white gold which is more durable. The lower gold content (37.5%) + the other white alloys combine to give a whiter finish without the need for rhodium plating.

This is the main reason why gents bands do not tend to go yellow.

Ant O'B
Jewellery manufacturer - Johannesburg, Gauteng, South Africa
August 29, 2008



Q. I've just read this thread with fascination. I have an 18ct white gold wedding ring and engagement ring. I've been married 4 years. 10 months ago I took the wedding ring in to the jeweler to be replated. This was the second time I had had it replated in the 3 years I had been wearing it (not the once every 5 they had originally advocated). Since I got it back last November, I literally only ever wear it to go to the office, I've been so careful with it, never wear it in bed, in the shower, to do D-I-Y or gardening but not because of the 'turning yellow' problem cited here, but because despite the fact I hardly wear it, it is getting dinged and dented like you have never seen. Some of the scratches are so big you can fit a small fingernail down them. My engagement ring which I wear at the same time does not have this type of problem at all. I took it back to the jeweler at the weekend and he agreed that it looked more like a wedding ring that had been worn for 20 years, not 4 and was astonished when I related how careful I am with it. He started in about how I might have some sort of skin allergy to white gold but I find it hard to understand how a skin allergy, if it is such a thing, might be gouging scratches and dents in my wedding ring. It has now been sent back to the manufacturers for some kind of 'deep' re-rhodium plating which is going to take up to 4 weeks with a long explanation of what the problem is, but I'm not convinced that this is going to solve the problem. A wedding ring should surely last for life but it this carries on we'll be buying a new one within a few years. Does anyone have any experience of this type of problem?

Kirsty Storr
- Norwich, England
September 28, 2008



December 5, 2008

A. Hi all,

Been reading through the thread and found some more info on another site which some of you may find useful.

Read on:

"White Gold and Rhodium Plating.

White Gold Grading

White gold is graded in colour from 1 to 4 depending on the quality of the colour and how often rhodium plating would need to be applied. 1 is the best possible colour, grade 4 is considered unacceptable as the colour is more of a yellow and relies heavily on costly rhodium plating in order to maintain the colour. Typically grade 3 and 4 qualities of white gold are generally used in many mass produced articles, as raw material costs are much lower, and the items are generally made to a price point rather than to a quality. Grade 3 and 4 colours do generate a lot of complaints from customers in the jewellery industry due to the problems associated with evident colour change once the rhodium wears off.

Category Colour Value Colour Description Frequency of Rhodium Plating
Grade 1 Less than 19 Good White Does not need to be rhodium plated for long periods
Grade 2 19 to 24.5 Reasonable White Option to rhodium plate occasionally
Grade 3 24.5 to 32 Poor White Frequent rhodium plating needed
Grade 4 Above 32 Not Acceptable True colour will be exposed very quickly in wear.

For reference rhodium plating is considered brilliant white and has a colour value of 7

All of the 9 kt white gold and 18 kt white gold wedding rings that we sell on this website are made using only Grade 1 white gold as we believe in only selling quality wedding rings that will give you years of hassle free wear. All of the jewellery on our websites also conform to the European Nickel Directive.

[several paragraphs which are highly repetitive of previous postings were deleted by editor]

Buying Advice

Palladium rich white gold is by far the best colour of white gold available at this time. It does however carry a premium and will be more expensive than cheaper alloyed white gold and is also more expensive than yellow gold which doesn't have such an expensive alloy added. The price difference between yellow gold and palladium rich white gold is evident on our website.

The increased cost of palladium rich white gold is offset by less frequent rhodium plating and thus less unnecessary polishing, but more importantly customer satisfaction is greatly increased as you will not suffer the same level of discoloration experienced with cheaper alloys.

I would always advise with items of white gold jewellery that are in constant use that you ask the sales person to confirm that the article is either 'palladium rich' or is made from 'Grade 1 Alloys' If they are unable to confirm this then I would assume that they are below grade 1."
Howard Emmerson
- South Yorkshire, England



Q. I have a white gold diamond ring purchased for me Feb 08 which I noticed was going a slightly yellowish tarnished colour on the underside of the band where there is the most wear (after 3 months). On purchasing the clerk did say it would need replating and when I asked how often his reply was "about 20 years or so". Had I known this whilst choosing the ring I would have steered clear of white gold (first item of white gold I have owned) and gone for yellow gold as I am a believer that plating of any kind will wear eventually and I like to be able to use things for their intended purpose and rings should be worn! So I was warned but lied to also. When I returned to the store they had it replated at no cost (said the first one was complementary!) but here I am again another 3 months later and have the same problem. That means to keep my ring looking the way I like I will have to spend minimum of £120 per annum! I was never warned that my skin reactions were also important. Had I known all of this I would not have purchased white gold -and when it's a gift I feel strange about having to return to the store and complain and I think they count on this. Sorry I'm cynical but been around a few years now! If rhodium is that strong how does it ever wear off plating or not?

Lindy Ferry
- Huntingdon, UK
December 10, 2008


Q. I have a brand-new white gold engagement ring. I took it in to be sized, and since getting it back, I've noticed spots... You have to look at the ring in the right light and angle, but when you do, there are varying sized spots, slightly darker than the rest of the ring.

Since I didn't notice them before the sizing, I'm wondering if anything in the sizing process (perhaps from the heat) could have caused this, and if anything can be done to fix it. My ring has about a week left on the return policy, so if nothing can be done, I'll exchange the band.

Jennifer Ottman
customer - Agoura Hills, California
July 22, 2009


A. Hi, Jennifer. Yes, the ring was probably replated after the resizing, and this is probably the cause of the spotting. The jeweler should either polish out the spots or replate the ring. The spots are not supposed to be there. Good luck.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
July 23, 2009



Q. I have read quite a bit on here about the different underlying compositions of white gold rings and I wonder if my appraisal would or should tell me what the underlying composition of my ring is? if not, is there an easy way to find out?

Also, I love the look just after it has been replated with Rhodium, and it doesn't wear that fast, but is it possible to replate it too often? could it actually be better to keep it plated to protect the underlying white gold?

Theresa Wells
consumer - Wichita, Kansas
February 17, 2010


A. Hi, Theresa. It is possible to tell the underlying composition via X-Ray Fluorescence, but the machines are very expensive and few jewelers would have them. Other than that, the test would be "destructive" -- that is, you would need to get to the underlying material to chemically test it for purity and composition.

The rhodium is only a few millionths of an inch thick. If it's done properly, I doubt that it's possible to do it too often.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
February 18, 2010



September 14, 2010

Can I dip or plate my white gold in palladium?

my wedding band is palladium and at 1 yr old is still shiny white, my 4 year old white gold engagement ring however, is yellowing and dull..
thoroughly enjoyed reading this thread

hailie Macky
- londonderry, U.K.



A. Hi, Hailie.

Thanks for the kind thoughts. Unfortunately,palladium plating is not more durable than rhodium plating. The basic problem is that the palladium ring is a solid consistent pleasing color whereas the white gold ring is actually somewhat yellowish, with the yellowness concealed under a thin plating. No matter what plating you use, it will wear off because rings are very high wear items. But a top class job of plating, whether rhodium or palladium, will be an improvement over a quick and thin coat.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
September 14, 2010



Q. I am and have been allergic to chrome, nickel and zinc for over 40 years and therefore cannot wear costume jewelry without breaking out in water blisters. I was recently on a cruise and on board the ship I purchased an inexpensive ring I was told was dipped in 'rhodium'. I had no idea what is was or wasn't but the price was great and I loved the ring just planning to use clear nail polish inside as usual. The Good News is that I wore the ring for 2 hours the first day, 6 hours the next day and a full day after that and didn't break out with blisters this time. I consider this 'rhodium' to be a miracle metal? as I am so sensitive to metal I break out from neosporin which contains zinc oxide. Thank you for 'rhodium-plating'.

Doreen Zielinski
- Greenfield, Wisconsin, USA
December 19, 2010


A. I USED TO WORK FOR ZALES JEWELRY STORE AND MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE INTO THE WHITE GOLD TURNING YELLOW PROBLEMS SO MANY OF YOU ARE HAVING. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WHITE GOLD. NO ONE GOES MINING AND FINDS WHITE GOLD IT IS ALL YELLOW. RHODIUM IS A PROCESS OF TURNING THE YELLOW GOLD WHITE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE ACID IN YOUR BODY CAN TURN THE WHITE GOLD YELLOW AND DEPENDING ON YOUR BODY TYPE IT CAN BE MORE FREQUENT THAN OTHERS. AFTER A YEAR MINE IS STILL WHITE, BUT MY MOTHER'S RING NEEDS TO BE REPLATED. OF COURSE THERE'S ALSO THE QUALITY FACTOR, BUT IN LAYMEN'S TERMS ALL RINGS ARE GOING TO NEED REPLATING AT SOME POINT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF HOW OFTEN WHICH DIFFERS WITH EACH INDIVIDUAL. ZALES OFFERS A LIFETIME PROTECTION PLAN WHICH WILL COVER RHODIUM PLATING FOR THE LIFE OF THE JEWELRY, IT'S WORTH THE EXTRA COUPLE OF BUCKS.

GENNA BLANEY
- ORLEANS ONTARIO CANADA
January 5, 2011



thumbs up sign Hi, Genna. Thanks for your input. But it's only partially correct. Although it is true that you can't find white gold in a mine, jewelry is rarely 24 kt gold. Rather it is, say 12 kt: i.e., half gold and half other metals. If those other metals are palladium or nickel, the jewelry will be whitish and it will be called white gold jewelry.

Yes, these days most white gold jewelry is rhodium plated for full "bling" because this is an age of bling, but if the jewelry is a good shade of white underneath the rhodium plating it will need replating rather infrequently because there will be very little contrast as the plating wears away. If the underlying metal is yellow, plating will be required very frequently because the contrast will be terrible as soon as the already very thin rhodium plating wears a little bit.

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
January 6, 2011



October 5, 2011

! Hello all,

I have had a lot of customers through our shop recently with 'White Gold' rings that are turning yellow, and none of them are all to happy about it to say the least.

It wouldn't be so bad if people were aware of it (as stated) but the problem is people like Genna above are not trained correctly and simply lack basic knowledge (basic in this industry) of precious metals.

We work with 18k White Gold and it is certainly not plated. While the price reflects that (due to the cost Palladium white is obviously more than gold) all our customers who prefer white gold are more than happy to pay that and we will NEVER have any back through the door unhappy with their metal choice.
I am really disgusted that other stores, mostly chains, are peddling Rhodium plated yellow gold as white. I had a conversation with another uninformed sales lady today who tried to tell me that Rhodium plated white gold was 'more pure' than that alloyed with Palladium, hence the yellow colour underneath. Honestly...!!

Like others I believe it is high time a WORLDWIDE industry standard is set not just for quality of plating but also for the information given to customers. 9 times out of 10 people who are buying jewellery would rather pay a little more for QUALITY over having something that needs regular maintenance. The sales lady I spoke to even said I could pay $300 NZ for a lifetime of *cough* free re-plating. Lady, you should be paying ME for MY time to come in and get that plating done every year or two!

Taz - Akaroa Blue Pearls.

Taz Walsh
- Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand


Q. Wow, this thread is very informative and I find it very helpful! One topic that I only saw mentioned once and am looking for further information on is the topic of two toned rings.

My wedding ring is majority white gold with a ring of yellow gold surrounding a yellow diamond on the side. When visiting the jeweler, they offered to clean it up for me and make it new. I did not understand the rhodium plating process at that time. (I now do, thanks to this page :-)). When they brought my ring back, the yellow gold was now white. I was so upset as the entire reason I choose my ring with my husband is because it was two toned. The jeweler explained he could remove the rhodium layer using an eraser method. When they brought it back out this time, the yellow gold was back but much lighter than it originally was. At times, I look at my. Ring and do not even notice the contrast between the white and yellow gold as I used to. Further, I feel my diamonds have a darker, almost gray color to them now. And the textured sides surrounding the yellow gold and smoothed down and no longer match the rest of the ring. As everyone else on this page, this ring is the most expensive piece of jewelry I own. Any thoughts or advice would be so greatly appreciated!

Megan
- Baltimore, Maryland
November 29, 2011



Q. Hi,

I have a question, is there any such thing as high grade / premium white gold?
I am looking to get an engagement ring & wedding band made of 18k gold mixed with platinum and palladium. They told me it was premium white gold.

I do not want to get it replated, and I was told with this mix I would not have to. Is this true? I just find it hard to trust any jeweler because they all say different things when questioned.

One jeweler told me that platinum will dent, but I have read on the internet that 18k gold is softer. If this is the case how will 18k gold mixed with platinum and palladium cope?

Can you please help me? Thanks

Rosie Doyle
- Australia
February 16, 2012


A. Hi, Rosie. Your jeweler seems to be telling the exact truth, but she could still be inadvertently misleading you a bit. There are very "white" white golds that do not 'require' plating; Stuller "X1 14K" and W.R. Cobb's "Precise® White Gold" are two examples that I've heard of.

But please remember that no other metal in the world offers the "bling" of rhodium plating -- it is very hard so it can be polished to the most reflective of all metals. A very high quality, very "white" white gold may be pleasing to you and it would be to me ... but if your girlfriends are flashing their rhodium plated rings, then maybe not, because rhodium is so bright that it will make their diamonds look much bigger :-)

But do the win-win of buying a really white ring and then you can always have it rhodium plated later if you wish!

Regards,

Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
February 21, 2012



May 21, 2017

I, as a Master Jeweler, have been working with all kinds of fine gold alloys and platinum. So, related to the white fine metal alloys, I can tell that, while some of them have a hint of yellow, some others can be created that are completely white and there is no need of finishing with a layer of rhodium as second skin.
Because the alloy metal(s) that give the white color to pure gold should include palladium in order to avoid the rhodium finishing bath, the final metal surface structure doesn't allow obtaining a high brilliancy finish no matter what polishing compound is used.
This way, the white color of this kind of white gold will last forever but its brilliance is lower compared to any other kind of white gold being whitened by a rhodium bath finishing.
People who prefer not to lose the original permanent white of their jewelry piece, the first of the two options given above should be selected.
If the white dazzling super-polish given by rhodium plating is preferred on whatever original gold color the jewelry piece had (including yellow gold), then, the second option should be selected. However, this option leads to re-plating the jewelry piece as frequently as needed.
A very good rhodium plating may last one year or a bit more depending on the kind of the jewelry piece and the wearing conditions.
As a matter of example, a very good rhodium plating layer is just 1.8 micro-inches thick!!
Most jewelers deposit only one quarter of this thickness in their rhodium layer.
Conclusions:
* All kinds of metal used in jewelry can be rhodium-plated to looks like platinum (or even more white)
* White gold alloys that do not change their good white color do not require rhodium-plating but cannot get a super-brilliant aspect.
* Rhodium-plating gives an excellent white super-brilliant and dazzling aspect but this condition is not permanent.

Carlo Emanuele Ciarlo
Master Jeweler - Miami, Florida USA



May 2017

thumbs up sign  Thanks so much, Carlo. Wonderful explanation!

Regards,

ted_yosem
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey



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