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Removing tarnish on brass, copper, bronze
Q. How can I sell copper/brass shining powder formulation which is very cheap in about 12 rs/kg. and long lasting shine?
I want to sell this formulation to multinational company. How can I do that?
- mumbai maharastra, India
January 25, 2021
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Q. What agent will instantly, on contact remove tarnish from brass/copper/bronze? (I used to use a product called 'Shower Power' but am now unable to find it.)
THANKS!
Carole Burns1998
A. Hi Carole,
To remove tarnish from brass/copper/bronze, you may need a formulation consisting of reductive acids, complexing agents, wetting agents and corrosion inhibitors.
Ling Hao- Grand Rapids, Michigan
1998
A. Hi, Carole. Ling is invariably right, and is probably right this time. But I'm guessing that you're a consumer looking for a commercially available spray or polish to remove tarnish from your household items, rather than for a formula according to which you would blend together the acids and agents that he mentions.
There are many copper/brass polishes. The very slowest acting ones like Brasso ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] leave the item the warmest and richest. The very fastest working, like vinegar ⇦in bulk on eBay or Amazon [affil links] plus salt (or lemon juice plus salt, or ketchup or hot sauce), leave the item orange and raw looking, and can damage really fine detail. There are probably many ranges in between.
The compromise that I personally use is Revere Copper & Stainless Cleaner .
It works quite fast & easy while still leaving what I consider a reasonably nice, warm, shine. There are probably several other brands that work very similarly.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
A. To remove the tarnish is not the point, what do you intend to do to prevent it from returning? There are products used in the printed circuits industry that prevent tarnish but on a temporary basis. A varnish or lacquer will help.
Sara Michaeli
Tel-Aviv-Yafo, Israel
1998
A. To remove tarnish from brass is best to polish it to the finish you want and then use a clear coat. This will keep it from tarnishing.
Sincerely,
Tony Penaplating shop - Miami, Florida
1998
Q. I would like to clean some copper contacts and connectors. Polishing is not practical. What can I soak then in to remove tarnishing and corrosion?
Trom Dom- Rochester New York
2000
A. Hi, Trom. To bright dip copper you need a solution that contains an oxidizing acid. Nitric acid is pretty nasty stuff, so I'd suggest you go with sulfuric acid plus hydrogen peroxide instead. This is available as a proprietary which contains stabilizers so the peroxide doesn't wastefully decompose too fast. A local plating supply house will understand what you are looking for. Good luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. I have an old fireplace which is so tarnished/corroded I can barely tell what metal it is. I found one or two spots that reveal the original metal, it has a copper tone to it. The rest of the metal is corroded to dark brown and spots of white (maybe just dirt?). I would love to be able to see the beauty of this 1907 fireplace in it's original state.. any ideas for cleaners, polishers... I can not afford a professional.
Anne Marlow- Lansing, Michigan
2000
A. Hi, Anne. I suspect it's cast iron with copper plating. If so, you will not get it to good condition yourself because most of the plating is gone. But the first step is to test it with a magnet: if it's magnetic, it's steel or iron, so you only options are to paint it or have it replated. If it's not magnetic, it is probably solid brass, bronze, or copper and it can be cleaned aggressively with a strong brass polish.
Your 1907 stuff will not be aluminum, but other readers with newer stuff should not jump to the conclusion that their stuff is not :-(
Good luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
Q. I recently received a dresser with brass handles from my great-grandmother. The dresser is in perfect conditions, but being that it is old the handles have turned completely black from tarnish and polishing 18 of them is just not effective or efficient. Isn't there anything the brass can be soaked in to be rid of the tarnish? Brasso is just not cutting it!
Cassandra Ayala- Bakersfield, California
2000
Q. Hi,
I have an antique brass hanging oil lamp that has been packed away for years. I came across it again when we moved but found it had not only tarnished, but turned green as well. I have tried a lot of things on the board here, but the green always comes back. Is there anything out there that will remove this green finish that has appeared? The green finish, for lack of a better word, looks like when copper ages. I have had the lamp frame tested and it is brass, not copper. Thanks for your help.
Bruce Lindstedt- Middletown, New Jersey
2002
Q. I am refinishing a baby grand piano. It is mahogany with brass hardware. What is the best sealer, lacquer and brass restorer?
Joel Delligatti- West Babylon, New York United States
2005
A. Hello Joel. There probably isn't really a 'best' anymore than a Chevy, Dodge, or Ford Truck is truly 'best'. If the brass is bright all over or in spots, it is probably lacquered and the lacquer must first be removed with lacquer thinner ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] Warning! highly flammable! . Then you can polish it with any of a dozen or more brass polishes. Then you can spray it with lacquer. Lacquer can be ordered in volume from G.J. Nikolas [a finishing.com supporting advertiser], or in single spray cans: brass lacquer ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] .
Luck & Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
2005
A. Ok, don't laugh. For heavily tarnished brass soak the item in Coca Cola for a few days (sometimes up to a week for heavy tarnish). It will not remove the tarnish entirely, but will make it easy to scrub off using a stiff brush and either Brasso ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] or Comet cleaner in a thin paste. Follow up with Brasso to brighten finish and then clear coat it for a finish that will last. Note: you may need to change the Coke after a day or two.
Dirk Roberts- St Louis, Missouri
2007
Q. How do you clean copper heating vents that have been left and are badly discolored? I have tried steel wool by suggestion and also vinegar and salt to try and clean and restore it but it was no go! Any suggestions? It is a floor heat vent that we bought and it sand blasted to clean it up and they told us just to steel wool it but that didn't work! Any suggestions?
Kirsty Koziehobbyist - Winnipeg, MB, Canada
October 5, 2008
A. Hi, Kirsty. Please see my answer to Anne, above. I believe your situation is the same.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
January 3, 2009
March 18, 2009
A. Hello everyone. I know everyone has asked over and over again how to remove the heavy tarnish from brass, but with no real answers that have proved effective. Well now I am going to tell everyone the secret of the pros, and how to do it in three easy steps.
First of all, you need to remove the heavy black staining that is preventing you from getting to the brass to polish it. To do this, you apply
naval jelly
⇦ this on
eBay or
Amazon [affil links]
.
to the brass with a brush. Let it sit on the brass for 5 to 10 minutes, and then scrub off with a toothbrush or a sponge. If it is heavily, heavily tarnished, you might need 2 coats.
Second thing is to fire up the buffing wheel, and then rub a brown tripoli buffing compound block
⇦ this on
eBay
or
Amazon [affil links]
on it. Once a little of the tripoli has rubbed off on the buffing wheel, start buffing out all the scratches and scuffs, quickly bringing the brass to a shine.
The final thing to do once you have done the pre polish with the tripoli, is rub a little "Red Rouge" [jeweler's rouge
⇦ this on
eBay
or
Amazon [affil links] ] on the buffing wheel, and then shine your brass up on the wheel with it, to whatever degree of luster you desire.
If you don't have a buffing wheel, you can repeat the entire process, but with using "tripoli", and "Red Rouge" in powder form, and rubbing by hand.
I was about to pull my hair out when I couldn't get a brass fan blade on an antique fan to look even somewhat presentable with Brasso. I was lucky enough to get the local silversmith to tell me exactly what he and every other silver plater, and silversmith uses to get brass to a mirror shine. My black corroded brass fan blade looked like a mirror after about 20 minutes, following this exact procedure.
As far as the products needed. Make sure the Naval Jelly is the pink kind. It will literally melt the black tarnish away with almost no effort whatsoever from you to remove it within 5 to 10 minutes. A buffer wheel is no more than a desk top grinder with a buffing pad applied to one side. You can even have buffing pads on both sides: 1 for the tripoli, and 1 for the red rouge, if you plan on buffing a lot of brass. The tripoli and red rouge can easily and readily be found on ebay for under $20 .
- Shawnee Kansas
Q. Hi. We have a copper butter dish and it had a large amount of green stuff on it. I covered it in ketchup and the green stuff turned black/brown and the copper turned pinkish. I scrubbed the black/brown stuff but it won't come of. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Al Hollander- Montello, Wisconsin, USA
May 29, 2011
Q. Our machine shop has brass and copper parts that are used for marketing purposes (take to trade shows, etc) and I would like to know how to make them shine again in a cost-effective fashion. Any suggestions?
Allan Johnsonmachining - Pikeville, Tennessee, USA
August 18, 2011
A. Hi, Allan.
The easy way is with a strong brass and copper polish like Revere Copper & Stainless Cleaner.
If this doesn't give enough shine, you will probably have to buff them with a buffing pad on a Dremel tool, a rechargeable drill, or an actual buffing machine. For the buffing compound you can certainly try just copper polish, but you may need to move on on a real buffing compound. Good luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
August 18, 2011
A. Just to advise that if you are in search of a product or some material to remove highly tarnished brass or copper the combination of vinegar and Iodized salt is the combination to use. This will remove the tarnish from the bronze or copper upon making contact with the tarnished piece. This has been proven. Upon applying you should immediately wash off the contents with water. Please note that the results will be a dull finish. You should use Brasso to get a shiny finished surface.
Oscar Byington- San Antonio,Texas USA
August 26, 2011
A. Barkeepers Friend ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] works wonders for removing tarnish from brass and other metals too!
Christina Lawrenceis - Sacramento, California, USA
January 7, 2012
Q. What kind of clear coat can be used on brass or copper specifically? Any kind of varnish or shellac, or something special?
Karl Seas- Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
January 18, 2012
A. Hi Karl. Brass lacquer may be the best choice since it is formulated for the exact purpose .
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
February 2012
Q. I have discovered that Twinkle ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] or Wright's Copper Cream ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] works wonders on brass. Every time I clean something with brass now, I think of all the hours I spent with SOS pad ⇦ this on eBay or Amazon [affil links] in the past trying to clean brass. It's amazing how easy it is now to use the above-mentioned products. With a little rubbing, they work really fast. I'm not having much luck with an old bronze chandelier, however.
Nancy Barginear- Conroe, Texas
February 6, 2012
Q. I bought an antique brass candelabra from an estate sale and it appears to have a powdery substance on it. I'm thinking it may be old brass cleaner. How do I remove that? I took a soft toothbrush and warm water and removed most of it, but not all. Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Angela
- Statesville, North Carolina
July 23, 2012
Q. I have a antique copper sink flange that is way too dark brown. I was told it is solid copper and no finish applied. However, the brown does not come off with copper polish. It is obviously an applied antiquing. There is not a shiny lacquer coating. It's a matte surface.
What can I do to get this back to a natural copper state? I want it to age naturally. It doesn't match my faucet like this.
Thanks.
- Pennsylvania
December 30, 2012
A. Hi Sandy. Despite it not looking like a shiny lacquer coating, I think it's very likely to have a matte clear coat on top of the antiquing for durability. And that clear coat is probably a two-component automotive clear coat that you won't easily remove. If you can get the drain fitting out to work on it outdoors, and with goggles and rubber gloves, you can probably get the coating off with noxious aircraft stripper. Once that's off, the antiquing can probably be removed with steel wool or brass wool and brass polish. Good luck.
Regards,
Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey
January 1, 2013
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