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Ted Mooney, P.E. RET
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Titanium pyrophosphate+Na2HPO4 in activation surface




2006

We are manufacturer of tri-cationic phosphate in automotive industry in Iran;
But we import material from Italy in activation stage with high price .
we make activation powder in lab with Titanium pyrophosphate+Na2HPO4+Anticorrosion+sodium nitrite But the coating in not uniform; what is your recommendation?
Farzanegan Farshid
manufacturer for PT material - Tehran, Iran



2006

Well, there is nothing wrong with "private labeling", and my recommendation is to continue importing the material from Italy despite the high price :-)

Sorry -- just an opinion.
Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey



Thanks for not acceptable answer but it is better you know that we are the biggest company in Iran for production of phosphating in automotive industryand your answer is out of any scientific and business direction.

I am so unhappy from myself that truth for finishing.com
Farzanegan Farshid
manufacturer for PT material - Tehran, Iran
2006



2006

Sorry that my response was not what you wanted, Mr. Farshid. Your question remains on-line and if anyone offers a reply we're always happy to print it!

I apologize that my answer made you unhappy, but my opinion on these subjects has been consistent: I think everyone worldwide is best off when suppliers make a major commitment to the development of the best new technologies, and then retain the fruit of their labor as proprietary to allow them to recover their development costs. Patent agencies throughout the world agree that the best way forward for the world is to give a company exclusive rights for a period, only after which others can follow the patent. It is very easy these days to search expired patents and profit from it.

I feel that when we expect formulations to be shared over the 'net for free, we leave no financial incentive for anyone to do any original R&D and advance the technology.

As the largest supplier in Iran, perhaps you will be able to develop an activator that is better than the Italian one; I hope so. When you achieve that, people from other countries will feel compelled to buy your proprietary because it is better. Just my personal opinion.

Good luck, peace, and regards,
Ted Mooney, finishing.com
Ted Mooney, P.E.
Striving to live Aloha
finishing.com - Pine Beach, New Jersey



May 7, 2009

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