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Chrome Bath Help: Chrome to Acid Ratio  

June 10, 2008

I have a Baume of 28 at room temp. Is this right? Does sulfuric acid raise or lower the Baume reading.
My chrome is depositing gray. I'm new and have the books coming but I'm excited to see it work.
Please be gentle with me, I want to learn.

Brian Morgan
New Operator - Arkansas, USA


First of three simultaneous responses -- June 12, 2008

Hey there,

well, with 28°Bé you have approx 345g/l CrO3 containing in your bath. If you are using a conventional chrome plating bath, than the ratio between sulfuric acid and chromic acid should be max. 1% (3.4g/l Sulfuric acid). Remember, sulfuric acid is your primary catalysator for your chrome process. On the market some other additives avalaible which increases hardness, appearance, throwing power and efficiency.
You have describted a grey deposit, so you should check at least your sulfuric acid content via centrifugal method and adjust if necessary.
The density of the electrolyte can also be influenced by metalic contaminations.

Regards,

Dominik Michalek
- Mexico City


Second of three simultaneous responses -- June 12, 2008

Baume is a poor estimate of the condition of the chrome bath. For good and consistent results,you need to do a titration for the chrome and analyze the sulfate with a precipitation and centrifuge method which is quick easy and reliable. Kocour makes an hand powered centrifuge that is OK, if you maintain a constant and correct RPM.
Baume measures everything and it all contributes to a higher reading. Chrome, acid, trash and etc.

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida


Third of three simultaneous responses -- June 12, 2008

Brian,

First I should have thought you would have read the book before starting. Second, I hope you are an industrial user who is knowledgeable in the handling of these hazardous materials and in the disposal thereof. If not STOP NOW. You may be getting yourself ready for a lot of time spent in litigation over waste, storage, use and safety regulations.

The correct ratio of chrome to sulfate (not acid, but the sulfuric acid contributes the majority of the sulfate) depends on whether you are running a non proprietery or a porprietary bath. The proprietary bath with have technical data which will tell you what ratio is suited for that chemistry.

The Baume (Be) is giving you an idea of the total disolved solids in the bath. By using a chart, an estimate of the amount of chromium or chromic acid can be arrived at. One then determines the sulfate by analysis and calculates the ratio and makes additions accordingly.

Gene Packman
- Great Neck, NY


June 16, 2008

Brian,hello.
Sorry, I got more questions than answers. Apart from chromic acid and sulfuric acid content,
1. What is the operating temperature?
2. What is the current density applied ?
3. What is the plating time?
4. Hard Chrome/Decorative chrome?
5. Substrate ? Chrome applied over Nickel?

SK Cheah
- Penang, Malaysia


June 16, 2008

SK,
They are all interdependent for a quality coating. Personally, I would buy two of the recommended books from amazon or whoever has used books in your country. Read them cover to cover before you spend a single rupee on anything else. There is a massive amount of information and sorting it all out is not simple as every plater has a tweak or two on one of the two or three main process methods.
Chrome plating is as much an art as a science, so consider working for a chrome plater for a year before jumping into the business.

James Watts
- Navarre, Florida


June 27, 2008

Chromium used for decorative purposes is 0.16-0.2 microns. At higher thickness the chromium will crack severely. gold is relatively soft so the cracking may be visible at 0.5 microns. I guess this is a decorative application not practiced in the US to my knowledge. The optimum chromium to sulfate is 100:1

Don Baudrand
Don Baudrand, Consultant
 
Poulsbo, WA. USA





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