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47054
Nickel Plating of Cast Iron Brake Rotor
[Minnesota]
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October 25, 2007
I have a pair of old and out of production brake rotors
that are worn. Replacements are not available. Is it
possible to nickel plate 0.020 /side to restore these
rotors? They are subject to pad wear and high temperatures
in use of course.
Pat McGuire
Hobbyist - St Paul, MN, USA
November 19, 2007
Yes, it's possible, although the plating will not be
uniform and will require machining to bring the sides back
to parallel. It won't be cheap. The coefficient of friction
will be different too. Would it not be simpler to just have
a machine shop replace the worn section?
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Jeffrey Holmes,
CEF
- Spartanburg, SC, USA
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November 21, 2007
In my opinion it's better, safer and less expensive to
have them argon welded (incidentally, almost pure nickel
rods are used for welding cast iron). Then machine back to
whatever size is best (more than 0.020" if desired). This is
the method used to restore broken or worn engine blocks. The
friction coefficient will change somewhat. It may prove to
be difficult to compensate this, but perhaps combining a
different set of suitable pads in the other wheels or
welding all four discs will help.
Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico
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November 23, 2007
On a brake rotor, I strongly advise against any welding of any
kind. And I cannot see how part of a brake rotor could be
replaced.
If they are old, they are probably flake graphite (grey) iron, which
for that application is now almost entirely superseded by compacted
graphite iron (well proven for many years in the extreme service
conditions of railway disc brakes and truck drum and disc brakes).
Some brake rotors were also made in spheroidal graphite iron,
although that has been shown not to be a good choice for this
application.
You need to locate a small, technically competent iron foundry (I am
led to believe by the trade press that the larger USA foundries will
only handle production runs of hundreds or thousands and are not
interested in jobbing work, only production-line stuff). Depending on
the geometry of your rotor, it might be able to be padded to use
directly as a pattern, or a new wooden pattern might have to be made.
You can then have new rotors cast.
Either have the foundry determine the type of iron in your old rotors
and duplicate it, or else have the new ones cast in pearlitic
compacted graphite iron so that it doesn't matter what the old ones
are because the material of the new ones will be as good as, or
better than, the old ones.
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Bill Reynolds
consultant metallurgist
Ballarat, Victoria, Australia
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First of two simultaneous responses -- November 26, 2007
Bill Reynolds -
"On a brake rotor, I strongly advise against any welding of any kind.
And I cannot see how part of a brake rotor could be replaced."
If it's a old rotor, I'm guessing it's a simple solid, unvented
rotor.
The worn portion of a rotor is the simple flat disc area. Certainly
that could be machined off, saving the hub, and a new flat disc could
be fabricated, possibly by machining the hub out of a new, similarly
sized and inexpensive available rotor. I've done this sort of salvage
for unavailable sprockets, salvaging the old and NLA hub, welded into
the center of a generic sprocket.
No, they weren't cast iron, and maybe you know something I haven't
thought of, but I don't see any reason the new disc section couldn't
be welded to the old hub.
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Jeffrey Holmes,
CEF
- Spartanburg, SC, USA
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Second of two simultaneous responses -- November 27, 2007
Mr. Reynolds,
I understand your point. The welding process is plagued of stories of
dismal failures and, indeed, things can go wrong. But on the other
hand, things can go wrong with castings too, can´t they?
Extensive and expensive quality assurement and control practices
applied by OEM´s assists this. I used to work buying castings
for one of the world´s largest tractor manufacturers and I
remember the specifications and testing to be mind boggling. The lot
sampling was the highest and so were the rejects. An important
percentage of parts that had already passed QC broke during our
processing before being put into service.
I guess bottom line is low volume and budget and a critical item are
a bad combination for safety.
Regards,
Guillermo Marrufo
Monterrey, NL, Mexico


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